To: circlecity
I believe all three of those were present in this case and would have voted to indict the officer. I acknowledge, however, that reasonable can disagree on this and hold no animus againast those who come to a different conclusion.
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The key to this case is Garner. Among those present, he was the only one who knew his medical condition. Knowing that, he decided to create an altercation with five or so police officers. His common sense was zero, just like the punk's charging action in Ferguson. Also ask yourself, what were the officers’ choices? They were trying to arrest him and this 300 pounder was refusing. Once the decision to arrest is made, it has to be completed. Officers are trained in what is called the “continuum of force” pyramid. That means you start by requesting cooperation of the subject. If the subject refuses to cooperate, you progressively escalate force. Physical take-down is a standard procedure to effect an arrest on a non-cooperating subject. Even if all five of the officers attacked Garner, he would likely have died from the exertion of resisting arrest, which, again, was his decision alone.
To: iontheball
We will just have to agree to disagree.
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