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To: catfish1957
"And you're still standing by the fact that this was not excessive force?"

I never said that. I simply said that the hold the officer used was sanctioned by the NYPD, that his black supervisor was at the scene, and didn't feel it was excessive force. Nobody knows what the exact charges of the case were. Different charges bring a different set of requirements for finding someone guilty. If the Grand Jury, which more than likely consisted of blacks didn't feel it was excessive, based on the charges presented them, than I'm not going to argue their decision.

In my career, I had to use physical force on individuals. I was only allowed to use the amount of force necessary to get the individual to comply with an order. Had I overstepped the line, I would have been investigated, and most likely been brought up on departmental charges. In this case, I haven't read anything about the NYPD pursuing departmental charges against this officer. If they did, then they would have to go after every other officer/supervisor who was at the scene at the time of incident.

75 posted on 12/04/2014 2:58:06 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Good explanation. I am sure that standard is variable to different LEO agencies. Would your force had considered this event an indictable offense?


76 posted on 12/04/2014 3:03:02 PM PST by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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