[WhiskeyX]

“Clearly, to any rational person, believing oneself to be a different sex is a mental disorder.”

How do you figure when there have always been intersexed humans?

You do realize all males begin fetal development as females until and unless there is an XY chromosome and the XY chromosome is fully successful in completing the male development without an abnormality. Any physical impairment of full male development of the initial female fetus results in physical and/or mental female characteristics being present in an otherwise chromosomal male.

[Crazieman]

Your entire argument is voided by female to male trannies.

And again, in error, are rarities and disordered, and should be treated as such. Not with radical surgery.

[Svartalfiar]

You do realize all males begin fetal development as females until and unless there is an XY chromosome and the XY chromosome is fully successful in completing the male development without an abnormality. Any physical impairment of full male development of the initial female fetus results in physical and/or mental female characteristics being present in an otherwise chromosomal male.

Do you realize how rare such people are? And even then, that the only chromosomal defect that results in feminized men is Klinefelter's?
The issues with transgenders are hugely mental issues, not physical.

BIID

[The_Reader_David]

There is a lawyers’ saying that interesting cases make bad law.

Certainly folks whose sex chromosomes do not correspond to their sexual phenotype. who were born with ambiguous genitalia and the like, should be shown compassion and cut some slack in these matters.

The problem is that there are phenotypically male human beings with an XY chromosome pair who insist they are “women” and phenotypically female human beings with an XX chromosome pair who insist that they are “men”. In either case, this is a contrafactual belief, which for some reason our society has decided should be treated in a radically different way than other deep seated contrafactual beliefs, which we almost uniformly regard as delusions, and when they cause unhappiness or harm to the person holding them as signs of mental illness.

We are not enjoined by our society to credit the claim of the homeless fellow my wife met in Seattle, who professed to be the Archangel Michael, but the bloke with both an XY chromosome pair and the usual male “hardware” who insists he is a woman is supposed to be referred to as “she” and allowed to use the women’s restroom, locker room and the like.

I have yet to get a straight answer as to why this delusion is different from all other delusions, and referring to the hard cases of physiologically intersexed persons is non-responsive.