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Legal Pot In The U.S. May Be Undercutting Mexican Marijuana
NPR ^ | December 01, 2014 | John Burnett

Posted on 12/03/2014 12:03:43 PM PST by ConservingFreedom

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To: ConservingFreedom

There’s no pro-criminalization side.

It was criminalized decades before I (or you) were born.

It was criminalized because it is harmful to individuals and to society.

Our current state of affairs is exhibit A regarding it’s harmfulness.

Decriminalization based on widespread use is also a symptom of the societal pathology we have.

It’s funny. All the crazy (supposedly) anti-drug propaganda we were told to laugh at, and did, was true.

It’s sad what has happened to this country in huge part due to marijuana use.


61 posted on 12/03/2014 2:08:25 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

If enough public employees will help with their lobbies to eradicate the drug slavery, I’ll stop pushing against debt/revenues for state and local governments. Otherwise, we, who’ve had our families violated and fired upon by pushers with support from the officious will solve the problem ourselves in due time.


62 posted on 12/03/2014 2:10:13 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Mr. K

“when i was a kid it was $5 a nickel-bag (1/4 oz) now it is like $100 or something ridiculous (don’t know, haven’t bought it in 20 years”

What?

It’s was $30 an eighth Oz in the 80’s.

It’s not much more than that now from what I hear.


63 posted on 12/03/2014 2:10:17 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
"It’s not much more than that now from what I hear."

It's way more than that. The local boss hogs, influential constituents and pillars of the community that they are, are also the most influential customers of pushers--something to consider.

"Arrest my son, and I'll have to discipline you!" --a local boss hog, long ago, who had the top administrators of the PD in his pocket


64 posted on 12/03/2014 2:18:28 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
With 'street committees' and 're-education'

Apparently, you are against the freedoms of speech and assembly

You think communist China's 'street committees' and 're-education' were about "freedom of speech and assembly"?! LOL! Educate yourself.

65 posted on 12/03/2014 2:21:51 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ifinnegan
That’ll lower retail prices and thus the amount of crime committed in order to pay those prices - another piece of good news.

Dope Head logic.

No, basic economics.

66 posted on 12/03/2014 2:22:45 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: indthkr
As his link shows, the Chinese solution was "street committees" and "re-education" - that is, communism. Is that what you're advocating for the United States of America?

I'm advocating sobriety via due process.

Sounds like the obfuscatory rhetoric of the left - what in practice would it mean?

I'm also advocating draconian "controls" on individuals or enterprises (including governments) that enable and profit from the production and sale of products whose sole purpose is mind-altering recreation.

Like alcohol?

67 posted on 12/03/2014 2:24:27 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ifinnegan
There’s no pro-criminalization side.

It was criminalized decades before I (or you) were born.

And the people who want to retain that criminalization are pro-criminalization, your strange word games notwithstanding.

68 posted on 12/03/2014 2:26:52 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: qam1

“Once the cigarette companies enter the pot market, the Liberals will quickly change and again be against legalization of pot. “

No they won’t.

Liberals need dope heads. No one else believes their nonsense.


69 posted on 12/03/2014 2:34:30 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ConservingFreedom

Legal marijuana for Gods sake. Or bring back alcohol prohibition.


70 posted on 12/03/2014 2:35:06 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: familyop

How much for an eighth ounce?


71 posted on 12/03/2014 2:35:37 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: greene66

Oh get off it.


72 posted on 12/03/2014 2:36:07 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Your funny in your hippie logic and propaganda.

Have you ever even smoked pot?


73 posted on 12/03/2014 2:37:40 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
That’ll lower retail prices and thus the amount of crime committed in order to pay those prices - another piece of good news.

Dope Head logic.

No, basic economics.

Your funny in your hippie logic and propaganda.

You're projecting - you're the one with a hippie's ignorance of basic economics and reliance on unsupported propaganda.

Have you ever even smoked pot?

Decades ago. Why?

74 posted on 12/03/2014 2:40:40 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ifinnegan

I haven’t bought or smoked weed in at least thirty years. I can remember and ounce being about $100 bucks. Couldn’t image what it is now.


75 posted on 12/03/2014 2:41:28 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: ifinnegan

It depends on the type. Anywhere from $35 to $75.(roughly)


76 posted on 12/03/2014 2:43:52 PM PST by EEGator
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To: ifinnegan

I don’t know about an eighth. Over the past few years, some of the local young hipsters in this locale said $100 per 1/4.


77 posted on 12/03/2014 3:17:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: ifinnegan

Back during the ‘90s, users in one part of the Midwest said about $40 per 1/4.


78 posted on 12/03/2014 3:19:35 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: ifinnegan

Early ‘90s.


79 posted on 12/03/2014 3:20:02 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
The PLA may take some credit for it, but it was obviously a grass roots effort actually carried out by the peasantry from the bottom, up. There were many millions of addicts, and most people had suffered from it for too long.

"How China got rid of opium"
Copyright Society for Anglo-Chinese Understanding (SACU) 2006 reprinted from SACU's magazine China Now 70, Page 17, March 1977
Excerpt:
By this time, there were literally millions of addicts in the country. The new government immediately set about coping with the monumental problem. Peasants were persuaded to plough in their opium crops and sow wheat or rice instead. Neighbourhoods were mobilised in a massive educational programme. The street committees which governed the neighbourhoods held study groups in which the evils of opium and heroin were discussed. Families of known addicts were educated not to blame their addict members, but to encourage them to seek help. Addicts themselves were impressed by the fact that they were not blamed for their addiction, since they were considered victims of foreign governments and other enemies of the people. After their cure, they were given training and then placed in paying jobs. Many of them were hired by the government to work with other addicts.
At the same time, pressure was placed on the dealers. Those who surrendered were accepted by the community, re-educated, trained for meaningful work and given jobs. The rest were packed off to prison, and the worst offenders were executed. By 1956, the People's Republic of China had virtually eliminated its drug problem.



80 posted on 12/03/2014 3:43:03 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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