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You Can Kill, But Not Murder: The Case for the Ten Commandments
Townhall.com ^ | December 2, 2014 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 12/02/2014 10:16:41 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/02/2014 10:16:41 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

>> The next time you hear someone cite, “Do not kill” when quoting the sixth commandment, gently but firmly explain that it actually says, “Do not murder.”

Yes, it comes down to what is in the individual’s heart.

Turn away with no prefaced intentions of harm enter with no intentions of harm but if attacked, you have a God given right to defend yourself from losing your own life by another’s hand.


2 posted on 12/02/2014 10:26:29 AM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Kaslin

I remember G. Gordon Liddy discussing this issue on his radio program back in the ‘90s.

He said that the Ten Commandments had not been translated correctly from the original text (in what? Aramaic?).

He said the correct translation was literally “thou shalt not do murder.”


3 posted on 12/02/2014 10:36:04 AM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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yes, my friend last nite was lamenting all the insults and gossip/smears that goes around in pro-life circles here ... most started by so called pro-lifers who are ambitious, career minded people.

They do not believe that false witness covers insults and smears. Only court room testimony, they say.

Back to the issue at hand:
“You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER ‘ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ 22”But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.…”


4 posted on 12/02/2014 10:46:57 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: Steely Tom

True enough - I suspect the King James translators chose the word “kill” because they liked the somnolence of the word as well as the meaning which in 16th Century English was widely understood to be murder.

And the Bible is quite clear that we can kill - in self-defense, in war and for food. But deliberate murder is outlawed. The first five of the Ten Commandments deal with our relationship to God - how we should conduct our lives in front of Him. The second five of the Ten Commandments deal with our relationship to our fellow human beings. What we should do in living with them in society.

None of this is too difficult to understand. Its probably the greatest moral code ever issued and for thousands of years its been the yardstick of Western faith, ethics and culture.


5 posted on 12/02/2014 10:52:02 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kaslin

Actually, if you want to be very precise, the Hebrew means “do not commit manslaughter or worse....” as accidental death due to carelessness was considered like murder.

Yet another example of the superiority of God’s law to any others...particularly as written in 1400 BC.


6 posted on 12/02/2014 10:55:52 AM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

“It is immoral to produce human embryos intended for exploitation as disposable biological material.”

As a consequence of the respect and protection which must be ensured for the unborn child from the moment of conception, the law must provide appropriate penal sanctions for every deliberate violation of the child’s rights.”81

The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.

“Every act of war directed to the indiscriminate destruction of whole cities or vast areas with their inhabitants is a crime against God and man, which merits firm and unequivocal condemnation.”110 A danger of modern warfare is that it provides the opportunity to those who possess modern scientific weapons especially atomic, biological, or chemical weapons - to commit such crimes


7 posted on 12/02/2014 10:58:04 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: Kaslin

If you want to see the limits of what justifies lawful killing, look at the justifications the police use to fire their weapons. I believe it is true that more police than ever before are going rogue with the administrative use of abuse and lethal violence. But that is not what I’m talking about here - that is a different subject. And, I might add, the VAST percentage of police are strictly professional, self-controlled and appropriate.

But all that aside, just consider, in your mind, how far someone can go in being aggressive with a cop before the cop will appropriately draw on them. THAT’S WHAT WE’VE LOST. It’s not that the cops have more self-protective authority, it’s that everyone else has LESS. We need to get back to people being able to defend themselves as immediately and legally safely as the police do now.


8 posted on 12/02/2014 11:22:38 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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