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To: jazusamo

Being a former Washington State salmon fisherman who also fished Bristol Bay, I can say that the evidence was not manufactured and the mine will indeed destroy the world’s largest sockeye fishery, worse it will greatly impact all the other fish species in the Gulf and the Bay. It is an ecosystem of which any major disruption in one area will impact all the others.

Pollack = fish sticks, Hake = false crab, Salmon will be only available in the US from chemically farmed artificially colored salmon, King, Red, Opilio crab (Deadliest Catch) et al will be exclusively imported from Russia.

Judge Holland made it clear that he sides with big business when he elected to find for Exxon in the Prince William Sound oil spill decision a few years back. He does not like commercial fisherman of any stripe, and commensurately lowered the award to next to nothing. PWS has still not recovered from the spill.

Remember all this when one day you go to the grocery store looking for real food, and find the shelves empty of any, just the usual very expensive imported vegetables and meats, all the rest being chemically produced from oil byproducts and random road kill.

Messing with your food supply is an exceedingly stupid thing to do, when all you get in exchange is inedible metals and a handful of transitory jobs.


18 posted on 11/26/2014 9:47:02 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Ping to post #21.


22 posted on 11/26/2014 9:53:24 AM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin)
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To: PIF
Most Alaskans are dead against Pebble, and everybody voted no for the oil Industry during primary election; that's much much more dangerous the Pebble Project could end up if a spill occurred.

Actually too many locals depend on the Bristol Bay fishery for their day to day sustenance; not worth the jobs created.

Imagine if every grocery in the lower 48 was infected with ebola and you all had to eat the food just because the govt said everything's just fine and dandy folks. Salmon is the main food source for people living there. Alaskans don't want outsiders or Alaskans destroying that food resource. Them Indians out there don't eat White Man's food.

26 posted on 11/26/2014 10:19:50 AM PST by Eska
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To: PIF

Totally agree..Not a big fan of government but I have to agree with the protection agencies on things like this. Just like the Atlantic Salmon here in New England. Hopefully the cod fishery isn’t ruined forever. Won’t know that for awhile. People should realize that when it’s gone, it is most likely gone forever.


27 posted on 11/26/2014 10:28:50 AM PST by Rick66
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To: PIF

Thats pure propaganda... you should be ashamed..

the metal deposits have been there for a millennium..
haven’t harmed the fish one bit...

You’re spouting liberal agitprop... STOP IT!..


30 posted on 11/26/2014 12:47:17 PM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: PIF; hosepipe
He does not like commercial fisherman of any stripe, and commensurately lowered the award to next to nothing.

I think you had better do a little reading as to who lowered the award, in reality it was the 9th Circuit Court of appeals.

excerpt from Litigation and cleanup costs. If you read further you'll discover SCOTUS also became involved:

"Meanwhile, Exxon appealed the ruling, and the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ordered the original judge, Russel Holland, to reduce the punitive damages. On December 6, 2002, the judge announced that he had reduced the damages to $4 billion, which he concluded was justified by the facts of the case and was not grossly excessive. Exxon appealed again and the case returned to court to be considered in light of a recent Supreme Court ruling in a similar case, which caused Judge Holland to increase the punitive damages to $4.5 billion, plus interest."

34 posted on 11/26/2014 1:45:23 PM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin)
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