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Just Enforce the Constitution We Have
Posted on 11/22/2014 4:56:00 AM PST by Jacquerie
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To: Repeal The 17th
Also helps to remember and appropriate the attitude Mr.Marcus Luttrell expresses so well—the only way to take us out of the fight—is to kill us. Unless we posses this attitude we are sheep.
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posted on
11/22/2014 7:02:45 AM PST
by
StonyBurk
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To: Diamond
"This isnt to say we shouldnt seek out the best among us. It means the careful selection of reps is insufficient to save our sinking republic." Jacquerie.
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posted on
11/22/2014 7:24:22 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Article V. If not now, when?)
To: Jacquerie
which is neither news nor activism..... it is in fact something to chat about
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posted on
11/22/2014 7:31:10 AM PST
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Nifster
To: Nifster
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posted on
11/22/2014 7:33:13 AM PST
by
Repeal The 17th
(We have met the enemy and he is us.)
To: Jacquerie
Isn’t it ironic how “conservatives” are running away from the very Constitution that 0bama is violating?
To: windsorknot
That’s the truth. Article V was designed precisely for the situation we find ourselves in.
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posted on
11/22/2014 8:15:32 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Article V. If not now, when?)
To: StonyBurk
How are you? It seems like a long time since the daily Federal Convention posts.
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posted on
11/22/2014 12:56:41 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Article V. If not now, when?)
To: Repeal The 17th
way to keep things classy
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posted on
11/22/2014 8:09:58 PM PST
by
Nifster
To: Nifster
Way to keep things off topic!
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posted on
11/22/2014 8:27:44 PM PST
by
Repeal The 17th
(We have met the enemy and he is us.)
To: Jacquerie
I obviously read it. I don't agree. You did not make your case because you start from the unfounded assumption that it matters what is written down either in the current Constitution or some future version. I do not agree with that assumption - not matter how much it might matter to you and to me, it does not matter to the political class.
My own premise - based on what has obviously happened in the last 60 years - is that the socialists do not care what is written down. If we can fix *that* problem, then what's currently written is good enough. Abiding by the 10th Amendment in particular would fix nearly all the problems that people want a new Constitution for.
I also disagree with your assumption that those who are broadly called conservative would somehow control the new Constitution. I think the political class would fight that very hard. And despite the number of politicians with 'R' after their name, they are virtually all in favor of a bigger government. This includes the state legislatures who would presumably approve the new Constitution if Congress would not.
Since there is no guarantee - and a host of empirical data against it - that a new Constitution would 1) be observed by the political class, or 2) have a high likelihood of embodying conservative principles, and there is a high risk that instead we would see things like the 2nd Amendment written out of the new Constitution, I think an Article V convention is all risk with no real potential for reward. It's not an absolute necessity. It's an absolute recipe for disaster.
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posted on
11/23/2014 12:37:00 PM PST
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Phlyer
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