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To: the scotsman

Sorry for being sarcastic, but the case he was jailed for was a 17 year old working class kid from the slums. not a middle or upper class adult over age 18 who he met in a bar.

It hit a sore spot in me, because I see this going on here in the Philippines, having rich politicians/businessmen preying on poor youth (both male and female) because they are rich, and they can get away with it. Many of these kids are seduced by promises of money or go along with the sex out of fear of losing their job.


42 posted on 11/21/2014 12:07:27 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: LadyDoc

I understand but 1953 London wasn’t Manila, the act was consentual (today 17 would be legal), and to jail men for it even then was imo ridiculous.


43 posted on 11/21/2014 5:15:15 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: LadyDoc; the scotsman
"the case he was jailed for was a 17 year old working class kid from the slums. not a middle or upper class adult over age 18"

Actually, Arnold Murray, the man he had a homosexual relationship with was 19 years old and he was a blackmailer, so hardly an innocent 'working class kid'. Even the right-wing Daily Mail has acknowledged these facts:

'...Unfortunately, it was in Manchester that Turing's life began to unravel - for it was here, outside a cinema in January 1952, that he met a 19-year-old called Arnold Murray.

He was invited to Turing's modest Victorian home in Wilmslow, Cheshire, several times over the following weeks, spending at least one night there.

But Murray was to betray him. A friend of the young man burgled Turing's house, confident that the mathematician would never press charges for fear of being 'outed' as a homosexual, and well aware that in 1952 more than 1,600 men had been charged under the draconian 1885 Act.

But Murray and his friend misjudged Turing. He not only reported the crime to the police, but also confessed to a sexual relationship with Murray.

And so, in March 1952, he was given the choice of one year's imprisonment, or probation on the condition that he accepted chemical castration. Turing opted for the hormone injections, which took place every week for a year.

They transformed his body. The man who had run a marathon in 2 hours and 46 minutes - when the world record was 2 hours and 25 minutes - was reduced to a shadow of his former self. 'They've given me breasts,' he was reported to have said to a friend, describing the shameful process as 'horrible' and 'humiliating'...'

Daily Mail article

Shortly afterwards Turing committed suicide. Given that without his revolutionary cryptanalysis work we would probably have lost World War II he deserved better.

45 posted on 11/21/2014 7:30:19 PM PST by Lord Flash
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