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1 posted on 11/19/2014 12:15:10 AM PST by wetphoenix
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It is becoming more and more obvious why Putin has tried to present himself as a conservative, pro church anti-gay leader. He knows it will play well with Ethnic Russians in border states who tend to be conservative and don’t want to be involved in the perversion that Europe is becoming. They are also anti-Muslim having seen what happened in Chechnya and Georgia and they see Europe as weak and lying to their people about Islam.

He is pandering to them in an effort to restart some mutated form of the USSR.

If I go back to the 1980’s before the fall of the Berlin Wall a guy I knew, who was well versed in prophecy, told me that communism would fall but only for a short time and then they would revert again - I am unsure if he got this from Daniel or Ezekiel - seems like it is heading this way!


2 posted on 11/19/2014 12:40:58 AM PST by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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Thats funny. The Hungarians HATE Russians. I was just there this summer.


3 posted on 11/19/2014 12:42:36 AM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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If Putin is personally capable of a grand strategy it would be to add Germany to a Russo/Sino alliance which would break up NATO, break up the European Union, draw many Western European countries into his orbit through intimidation, and effectively isolate Great Britain and the United States.

I am astonished at the number of my neighbors here in Germany who find tortured ways of defending Putin. The damage to American influence in Europe caused by the Iraq war seems to never end. That damage is compounded daily by the pathetic image of an ineffectual president bungling every international question to which his country is exposed. Obama has become a laughingstock in Germany, at least at the man on the street level.

The Germans much like the Hungarians are severely constrained from breaking away from the American nuclear umbrella by the fact that they have no bomb of their own. The more Putin reveals himself to be a KGB thug, the less Germans will be likely to submit themselves to his tender mercies. This is not necessarily true of France which historically seeks ways to piss allies off and Great Britain which is always understandably sought to play a collection of states against the European superpower because both of these nations have the bomb.

But make no mistake, Europe is full of leftists and there is always the Islam card, indeed a wildcard, which might make common cause with Putin and seek to deliver Europe to him.

It is unlikely, but an alliance of Germany, Russia, China would be catastrophic.


7 posted on 11/19/2014 1:26:30 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Bears watching.


13 posted on 11/19/2014 1:36:49 PM PST by OldNewYork
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What is the Russian view of Hungarian protests, anyway?
Can anti-corruption protests happen? or are western imperialists driving these as well


16 posted on 11/19/2014 7:03:58 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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