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To: Darksheare
I forget what the forced sterilization programs were called, but men and women who had learning disabilities were forcibly sterilized in the past. Sanger was proud.

Yes they were. I do not know if it was pursuant to adjudication in every case. Still, are you going to take these children and adults into your home to protect and care for them? That is what the Torah teaches we should do, particularly in preparation for the Sabbath Year. How then, do you propose to protect them from sexual abuse and its consequences?

94 posted on 11/24/2014 11:30:33 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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To: Carry_Okie

” I do not know if it was pursuant to adjudication in every case. “

It was not.
Plenty of times people went in for minor things, appendectomy for example, and woke up sterilized.
Or worse, there were no “cover” surgeries.
Just forced compliance.
All in the name of EUGENICS.


96 posted on 11/24/2014 11:34:40 AM PST by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Carry_Okie; Darksheare; EternalVigilance
How then, do you propose to protect them from sexual abuse and its consequences?

And your solution is to prevent them from being born in the first place?

Why not just kill everyone to avoid any possible crime or its consequences?

97 posted on 11/24/2014 11:34:43 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Carry_Okie; wagglebee; EternalVigilance
Yes they were. I do not know if it was pursuant to adjudication in every case. Still, are you going to take these children and adults into your home to protect and care for them? That is what the Torah teaches we should do, particularly in preparation for the Sabbath Year. How then, do you propose to protect them from sexual abuse and its consequences?

It is unseemly to invoke the Torah in advocating your position, Carry_Okie. The Torah forbids sterilization and certain birth control practices precisely because of the command to be fruitful and multiply, and because G-d created the earth to be filled with humans, not to be desolate.

In the strict sense it is also forbidden to castrate any male being whatsoever, though in these times non-Jews receive leniency in their castration of animals.

116 posted on 11/24/2014 1:04:07 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Carry_Okie
Still, are you going to take these children and adults into your home to protect and care for them? That is what the Torah teaches we should do, particularly in preparation for the Sabbath Year. How then, do you propose to protect them from sexual abuse and its consequences?

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Is it your contention that it is kinder to deny someone the opportunity to live than to take any chance whatsoever that they may be treated badly during their lifetime? Isn't life full of challenges, regardless of a person's mental capacity?

119 posted on 11/24/2014 2:16:39 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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