Posted on 11/15/2014 3:29:08 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
JULY 29, 2014
Jonathan Gruber, Extremely Smart Person
In an oped for Politico, I explain why ObamaCare architect Jonathan Grubers 2012 admissions that if youre a state and you dont set up an Exchange, that means your citizens dont get their tax credits matter to the ongoing litigation over the Obama administration issuing those subsidies in federal Exchanges, and why Grubers attempts to explain his own words away are not credible. Shortly after submitting that piece, I learned Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt found Grubers remarks relevant enough to ask a federal court hearing one of those cases to take notice.
Grubers repeated remarks contradict the Obama administrations legal argument, made in Halbig v. Burwell and three related lawsuits, that it is implausible that Congress would have conditioned those subsidies on states establishing Exchanges. His remarks likewise contradict the amicus briefs Gruber himself filed in two of those cases.(Heres my response to those briefs.) From my Politico piece:
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Jonathan Gruber doesnt flake. He knows this law in and out. He knew what his words meant, with all their implications, when he spoke them. He knew the feature he was describing essentially gave each state a veto over the PPACAs exchange subsidies, employer mandate and to a large extent its individual mandate. He knew that could lead to adverse selection. To claim Gruber didnt know what he was saying is as absurd as saying a conductor might fail to notice that the brass section suddenly stopped playing.
Supporters of the Obama administration have downplayed Grubers comments because he is not a member of Congress. Nevertheless, he played a larger role in writing the PPACA,.....
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I like watching the left crumble. It’s been a long time coming imo.
What I don’t see is the analysis of the big picture over the last 20 years...
How the liberal biased media began losing its chokehold on information w/ talk radio and internet==>
How this accelerating loss of control led to increasingly one-sided bias in attempts to retain control over the political landscape.==>
How such extremes in bias prevented the media from doing its job at all in 2008 resulting in an idiot as president ==>
How such extremes in bias prevented the media from doing its job in reporting on 0bamacare, Benghazi, IRS, EPA, etc ect, etc ==>
With more internet, radio, and at least one big media company now reporting [as opposed to propagandizing], how much longer can the “old” media survive?
Didja see FOX ratings on election night?! Beat the others like a borrowed mule. Even beat the broadcast nets. IIRC they had more viewers than all others combined or something ridiculous like that.
I’d like to see/hear a Krauthammer or Levin or Limbaugh discussion of the media’s role in this fiasco we call the 0bama regime.
Ph.D. = Piled Higher and Deeper
You are correct about the information age. Hitler had the press controlled within 3 months. Our present tyranny is having a difficult time controlling information.
Dachau Concentration Camp was opened on March 22nd, 1933. This is less than two months after Hitler took power on January 30th, 1933. And it took longer than 3 months for Hitler to gain control over German Media.
No sane person, regardless of profession {even lawyers} can come to any other conclusion.
If a certain Chief Supreme Court Justice is being black mailed, then I'm not sure how the verdict will end.
How long is it gonna be before Betsy McCaughey shows up and publicly kicks this guy’s ass?
I’m going to add this.
Gruber disclousure:
“I am a paid consultant to the Obama Administration”
http://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMp0911715/suppl_file/nejmp0911715_disclosures.pdf
Attached to this article in the New England Journal of Medicine by Jonathan Gruber “Getting the Facts Straight on Health Care Reform”:
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0911715
Nov. 15, 2014: ....The weeklong #GruberGate, as it has been dubbed on Twitter, comes just as the Massachusetts Health Connector prepares to relaunch its website today for open enrollment after a devastating year that saw residents struggling to sign up for health plans.
Gruber, a Connector board member, told Bay Staters on Thursday to give us another chance, but Archambault said the professor is the last thing the embattled panel needs as it seeks credibility.
It does raise big questions about his ongoing involvement in Massachusetts, sitting on the board, Archambault said.
Gruber did not return an email seeking comment yesterday and there was no answer at his Massachusetts Institute of Technology office. He has declined multiple requests for interviews this week with the Herald.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3227275/posts
It depends on the left Justices voting for the Constitution. If Ginsburg, for instance votes properly then Roberts won't allow himself to be in the minority and will vote the right way.Without some help from the Left side, the Sultan's inducements or threats might well put him on the same side he took before. Roberts is, at best, unreliable,
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Not a simple Republican senator or Congressman voted in favor of that monstrosity called Obamacare. It must be make perfectly clear that democrat Phd com man Gruber, called stupid not all the American voters, but just the democrat voters that put the Liar in Chief in the White House, in spite of his Marxist anti-American back ground, and all the Democrats legislators co-conspirators with the president and the MSM in the greatest deception against the American people in the history of the United States.
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