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Time to buy that new TV online: Boehner kills Internet sales tax bill..
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | November 11, 2014 | David Martosko, US Political Editor for MailOnline

Posted on 11/11/2014 11:38:14 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bill; boehner; internet; internettax; monster; tax
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To: Billthedrill

“One for common sense, and a hat tip to Boehner. The latter is a rarity but I’d be happy to do it more often.”

Good for you.

Lets hope that you, other freepers, and I get carpal tunnel syndrome next year from tipping our hats or saluting congress for doing the right thing.


81 posted on 11/12/2014 10:52:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: nascarnation

Decades ago one of our younger relatives went to Oregon to go to a trade school.

He worked as a low paid intern before his certification. I did his state and fed income taxes for him.

His Oregon income tax hit was incredible based on very low salary bases. The following is from 2009, and it is probably worse.

How Oregon State income tax rates are structured:

The tax table below will show in detail the Oregon state income tax rates by income tax bracket(s). There are 3 income tax brackets for Oregon.

If your income range is between $0 and $3,050, your tax rate on every dollar of income earned is 5%.
If your income range is between $3,051 and $7,600, your tax rate on every dollar of income earned is 7%.
If your income range is $7,601 and over, your tax rate on every dollar of income earned is 9%.

Income tax brackets data last updated March 3rd, 2009.


82 posted on 11/12/2014 10:59:48 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: dfwgator

Thanks, I shudder and grin at the same time, whenever you post this. Keep posting it:

Until the time they determine you are a threat to the system. That’s when the enforcement happens. Remember the quote from “Atlas Shrugged”:

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris.”

“We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”


83 posted on 11/12/2014 11:01:48 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Lib state Oregon isn’t drowning itself in taxes? How odd.

They make up for it in personal income tax.

84 posted on 11/12/2014 11:11:25 AM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Age of Reason

85 posted on 11/12/2014 11:38:00 AM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
because they are not collecting the taxes, and people who buy from them are not paying their taxes directly as the law requires.

It would be much simpler to just let the government take all your money, then they could send you what they think you should have.

86 posted on 11/12/2014 11:44:57 AM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Carry_Okie

The software does not get fined if the state did not receive one of its quarterly payments. You get fined. So the software is immaterial here.


87 posted on 11/12/2014 12:11:27 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
What if states got rid of their sales taxes altogether, and found a different way to raise revenue?

Ah, well, there's the rub, isn't it? Raise revenue from what? Income tax? Property tax?

88 posted on 11/12/2014 12:16:59 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
What if states got rid of their sales taxes altogether,

"What if states got rid of their sales taxes"

89 posted on 11/12/2014 12:19:13 PM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: dfwgator

At the state level, some odd math comes into play. They actually have to consider the *expense* of a tax compared to the revenue it brings in. The expense of overseeing a sales tax is huge, having to pour over the books of every business in the state.

And it is just one of the taxes levied on business. So if you combined business taxes, with the idea of ending the sales tax, you would likely get business on board if you could show them they would save money as well as the state saving money.


90 posted on 11/12/2014 12:38:21 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
In an era where people will loot stores whenever they can get away with it, I don’t believe you can assert that a tax is confiscatory when people won’t pay it. People would take the toys out of your front yard if they thought you wouldn’t shoot them.

Sounds like you need to find a better place to live.

Your post is incidental to me, because I happen to live in one of the few places that does not have sales tax... You know, like it used to be wherever you are.

No, sales taxes are not implemented because they are some sort of fair balance, Sales tax is implemented because they done wrung as much as they could out of income taxes without folks blowing a cork. And, like gasoline taxes, sales tax winds up being embedded revenue that no one pays attention to. Folks wind up not even knowing how badly they are getting reamed.

And finally, paying businesses to collect the tax is not the issue - the coercion is the issue - Placing the responsibilities of one upon another. And in practice, it winds up being a rake on the pot - the tax is actually wholly on the business owner, not on you. You may pay more to cover it, but it is the business owner that is on the hook for it. Employment taxes and health taxes amount to the same thing, in the same fashion.

Which leads me again to my main thrust: When the tax man comes and takes the tax directly out of YOUR own pocket, and YOU are responsible to defend YOUR own self, and keep track of it YOUR own self, I guarantee that taxation will go precipitously downward in a fairly immediate fashion.

91 posted on 11/12/2014 1:08:19 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: justa-hairyape
The software does not get fined if the state did not receive one of its quarterly payments. You get fined. So the software is immaterial here.

Ever hear of guarantees, insurance, liability, and compensatory damages?

I knew you had. This is becoming a waste of time. Take your fear mongering to somewhere it will work.

92 posted on 11/12/2014 1:48:48 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: justa-hairyape
The software does not get fined if the state did not receive one of its quarterly payments. You get fined. So the software is immaterial here.

You get fined if your income taxes are wrong too, yet somehow people find a way to use tax accountants.

Maybe some day you'll learn how a market works. It might make you a more successful business person.

93 posted on 11/12/2014 1:54:02 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Tonytitan
Amazon closes down shop in America. Moves operations to China.

Alibaba is already in operation, and is huge.

But guess what? States are already tapping into federal customs data bases and are sending sales tax bills to buyers of expensive items from foreign sources.

94 posted on 11/12/2014 2:10:06 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: bigdaddy45
I wonder how far that tax goes. For instance, last week I was in Florida. I purchased a few things; but the sales tax is less than that in Ohio. Technically, i’m supposed to declare the difference, and pay it. That is totally unenforceable of course.

And if someone from Florida buys something in Ohio, will he get a refund on his overpayment?

No, I guess not.

95 posted on 11/12/2014 2:16:16 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: itsahoot

That certainly isn’t something you support.

How would you prefer the government to collect state taxes?


96 posted on 11/12/2014 3:56:16 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: bigdaddy45

Uh, *cough, cough* I pay those taxes in Michigan, either the set fee they say or my actual tax. I choose their handy-dandy set fee. I have this fear they know and will come looking for me if I don’t pay that tax. LOL


97 posted on 11/12/2014 5:11:34 PM PST by madison10
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Thank you Republicans

democrats would have passed this internet tax if democrats had both houses, ditto for Amnesty, gun control , full socialism etc.


98 posted on 11/12/2014 6:29:26 PM PST by Democrat_media (call Congress 202-224-3121 to stop Obama's executive order for Amnesty for illegals)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Plus he is starving the State Beast.


99 posted on 11/12/2014 7:42:02 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

What revenue does a state really need to raise? First step is user fees. That would keep government bloat down.


100 posted on 11/12/2014 7:45:14 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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