Posted on 11/11/2014 6:12:16 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
There is a famous thought experiment called the trolley problem, and it goes like this: A runaway trolley is headed toward five people bound on the tracks. You are standing before the switch that could divert it onto another track, where it would kill only one person. Do you pull the switch?
The trolley problem is the most flattering possible way to think about the conservative movements fanatical commitment to repealing Obamacare.
If they pull the switch and repeal Obamacare, or if they persuade five Republican Supreme Court justices to cripple it, they will spare America from the evils of mandates, taxes, regulation, and what they imagine to be European socialist horrors. They will also kill what are now identifiable human beings.
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Obamacare has nothing to do with health it’s about socialism power and taxes and a lesson in how to rape the rich {working class)more of the same is on track.
Republicans will fix it. It is up to a Democrat to repeal it.
Before any deductible right?
Death “heros”: Obamacare goes hand in hand with the abortion doctors who never get sued for botching killing operation as opposed to make alive operation.
It is Orwellian to indeed call “health” insurance something that kills health.
The solution to the “Trolley Problem” is to be the one at the motorman’s seat with a hand on the brake. Stop Obamacare. Make healthcare “affordable” with tort reform and free market competition.
Of course, Jonathan, Obamacare is killing people. For example, it only provided some subsidies, and some people couldn’t afford the care, and so they don’t have insurance. And now they are dead. If the democrats had made larger subsidies, some people who are dead would now be alive.
Also, if the democrats had allowed people to keep their insurance, people would not have lost their insurance, and some of those people who are now dead might be alive.
Fortunately, the job of the federal government is not to keep people alive. It is to defend our country. People can die on their own, or can keep themselves alive.
Chait is on acid.
If people don’t get care because they think they can’t because they don’t have insurance then they are too stupid to live.
Except when they vote.
Then it's racist to try to identify them.
-PJ
Yes that’s just the premium. I work for a Fortune 100 company that has a reputation for good benefits.
Why bother at that price? You'd most likely be better off paying out of pocket.
Mm mm because of our age. Mmmmm because I have already been through breast cancer where one chemo treatment was billed at $13000.
Because hubby went through a prostate cancer scare where the exploratory alone was billed at $35000 for the medi center.
I will gripe about it because it is outrageous but I’ll pay the $16000 a year with our history.
To me it all seems to be a perfect example of how “When you are up to your ass in alligators it is hard to remember that your initial objective was to drain the swamp.” People wander off into all kinds of byways and forget the basics. The basics of healthcare begin with the fact that there IS NO MAGIC in any kind of insurance, insurance is NOT healthcare and healthcare is limited as all things accomplished by human effort are limited. Involving the government wastes resources on a monumental scale, it does NOT somehow make available hospitals, emergency rooms, nurses, technicians etc. it REDUCES the supply of services. Any one who imagines that involving the government in healthcare can possibly do anything other than worsen the situation is simply fantasizing and refusing to recognize reality. We would all be vastly better off right now if government had stayed within the boundaries set by the constitution. Sixty years ago if a child fell out of a tree and broke his arm he was taken to a physician’s office, his arm was set and he went home, the bill was minimal and his family paid it without reference to insurance or government aid. If the same thing happens now the bill will be equal to about what a carpenter earned in five years sixty years ago. The main reason it is so high is that the government is involved in medical care.
With no other knowledge than what was given any sane person would pull the switch to save five at the expense of killing one, to do otherwise would be absurd. It should not take even one moment of thought to make that decision. If it were a choice of destroying five new F-150 pickup trucks or one there would be no hesitation. Why is this presented as some kind of great moral quandary? Soldiers on the battlefield have been known to decide instantly to sacrifice their OWN lives to save five of their fellow soldiers. To make it an impossible choice is the same kind of thinking involved in saying, “You cannot put a price on human life.” That is poppycock, it is done every day. Are we to believe that ten TRILLION dollars might be spent to save one human life? There is a limit to everything except human stupidity.
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