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House GOP Split on How to Stop Obama Executive Amnesty
The Weekly Standard ^ | November 10, 2014 | BY MICHAEL WARREN

Posted on 11/10/2014 3:30:40 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Rep. Matt Salmon of Arizona is pushing his Republican colleagues to try to block the president from using executive action on immigration, but his plan is likely to hit strong resistance from House leaders.

The federal government is currently funded through a continuing resolution that runs out at midnight on December 11. Salmon, echoing similar calls from Republican senators Jeff Sessions of Alabama and Mike Lee of Utah, proposes that Congress pass a bill that would fund the government until early next year. If the president moves ahead with his executive amnesty, the expiring continuing resolution would give Republicans an opportunity to block funding for the president's action after both houses of Congress are under Republicans’ control.

But that plan has a tough road ahead. Republican leadership in the House is eager to pass a spending bill through the 2015 fiscal year before the start of the new Congress.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; border; executiveamnesty; illegalaliens; tyranny
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There will be political hell to pay, GOP, if the public perceives you are cooperating with Obama on this.


21 posted on 11/10/2014 3:46:13 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Don’t scroo this up. Not this time.

Doing the right thing over the next two years guarantees Republican domination as far as the eye can see. That’s more than the Chamber of Communists can do for you.

Conversely, failing to live up to expectations guarantees you Whig status, followed by extinction.


22 posted on 11/10/2014 3:46:43 PM PST by Paulie (Get off the grid.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

McConnell is hell bent on doing as much during the lame duck so that the new congress is not burdened.

This is a great idea!

If they impeach now, it will unburden the new congress from having to do it!


23 posted on 11/10/2014 3:46:53 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: rolling_stone

Boehner and McConnell doesn’t want to reduce spending on anything


24 posted on 11/10/2014 3:47:09 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: JRandomFreeper
McConnell and Cornyn are already responsible for REMOVING the debt limit with their cloture votes, ignore the show votes.

Yep — I loathe the irresponsibility our congressmen have shown WRT debt…

Sadly, I think the only way to stop them is via Constitutional Amendment, something like this:

Section I
The power of Congress to regulate the value of the dollar is hereby repealed.

Section II
The value of the Dollar shall be one fifteen-hundredth avoirdupois ounce of gold of which impurities do not exceed one part per thousand.

Section III
To guard against Congress using its authority over weights and measures to bypass Section I, the ounce in Section II is approximately 28.3495 grams (SI).

Section IV
The Secretary of the Treasury shall annually report the gold physically in its possession; this report shall be publicly available.

Section V
The power of the Congress to assume debt is hereby restricted: the congress shall assume no debt that shall cause the total obligations of the United States to exceed one hundred ten percent of the amount last reported by the Secretary of the Treasury.

Section VI
Any government agent, officer, judge, justice, employee, representative, or congressman causing gold to be confiscated from a private citizen shall be tried for theft and upon conviction shall:
a. be removed from office (and fired, if an employee),
b. forfeit all pension and retirement benefits,
c. pay all legal costs, and
d. restore to the bereaved twice the amount in controversy.

Section VII
The federal government shall assume no obligation lacking funding, neither shall it lay such obligation on any of the several States, any subdivision thereof, or any place under the jurisdiction of the United States. All unfunded liabilities heretofore assumed by the United States are void.

Section VIII
The federal government shall make all payments to its employees or the several states in physical gold. Misappropriation, malfeasance and/or misfeasance of funds shall be considered confiscation.

25 posted on 11/10/2014 3:48:16 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Tzimisce
...cutting his funding never crossed their mind?

At this point I don't think it crosses the mind of anyone in DC.

26 posted on 11/10/2014 3:49:37 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Republican ‘leadership’ is beyond disgusting. They will never have an issue with more public support than fighting Obama’s threatened illegal executive amnesty for illegal aliens.

It is a perfect setup for the House to block any CR that goes beyond, say, February of next year, and save the next CR as a tool to put financial restrictions on any illegal EOs Obama issues on amnesty. Obama would be blamed for any government shutdown if he refused to accept a CR next year that defunded any amnesty scheme he tried through an EO.

Pathetic Republican cowardice, or maybe ‘leadership’ actually wants an amnesty scheme. Conservatives should smoke them out and really make an issue of this during the lame duck.


27 posted on 11/10/2014 3:52:13 PM PST by Will88
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To: OneWingedShark
I didn't see 'hanged by the neck until dead' anywhere in that.

/johnny

28 posted on 11/10/2014 3:52:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lets Roll NOW

McConnell & Boehner = quivering jello


29 posted on 11/10/2014 3:54:37 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It is very easy.

In the budget, appropriate money for:
- the building of the fence / wall
- building of detention centers in the middle of the desert where illegals are permitted to work making compressed earth blocks to build the wall to “work off” their time of administrative detention
- fund the return of illegals to their home country
- require X number of illegals to be deported or X miles of fence built in order for the government to issue work permits
- make the default tax rate for any corporation that uses illegals 35%. Allow a exception for those businesses that use e-verify

Then send the bill as part of the omnibus spending bill and let Obama veto it if he does not like it.


30 posted on 11/10/2014 3:57:35 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Reno89519

Lack of funding does not deter lawlessness.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3217443/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3217959/posts?page=58#58


31 posted on 11/10/2014 3:58:24 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: Sergio

Here’s the plan: ENFORCE EXISTING LAW.

What is so difficult about that?


32 posted on 11/10/2014 4:00:18 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I really don’t understand. It makes sense to put a short leash on the funds and not just due to amnesty. If they have to reconsider the 2015 funding bill in the new Congress, the republicans have much more power. They can actually control things and make Obama be the reason govt. shuts down. The only reasons I can see they wouldn’t want to do this — they’re chicken and don’t want to take control of things. Or they just like everything Obama does.

It could be that no matter how loud ‘We the people’ shout, Boehner and McConnell are just too deaf to hear.


33 posted on 11/10/2014 4:00:33 PM PST by Waryone
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To: JRandomFreeper
I didn't see 'hanged by the neck until dead' anywhere in that.

…that would be an awesome addition, but I think mayhaps a bit too much as a Constitutional mandatory minimum sentence for the offenses listed.

Now things like Treason and, arguably, using the interstate commerce clause to regulate intrastate commerce*, well that would be appropriate.

* The line of reasoning there is that the imposition of the regulatory powers within the states would fall exactly as analogous of the federal government trying to regulate items/activities in foreign countries — the interstate commerce clause is the same clause allowing the regulation of foreign commerce — therefore, the imposition of such regulatory power is either (a) an act of war, or (b) the act of a conqueror upon the conquered.

34 posted on 11/10/2014 4:04:50 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There will be a GOP mutiny in the House.

The House will not pass a CR or Budget WITHOUT a provision that prevent the govt from spending a single dime on "Executive Amnesty".

While Boner and McConnell may be totally disconnected, the remainder of the House is not.

Boner will not have enough votes to pass that crap even with all the Democrats.

35 posted on 11/10/2014 4:06:07 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why pass a long term spending bill before the new Congress is seated? That is not good leadership. Hurrying up is just pandering, anyway.


36 posted on 11/10/2014 4:11:15 PM PST by jch10 (OTOOTO....Obama, The Out Of Touch One!!)
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To: immadashell

Exactly. Impeach the fraud. Throw him out of office. Defund all his new agencies. And start untangling the mess with the goofy Uncle Joe mumbling in the corner.


37 posted on 11/10/2014 4:12:31 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Where are those Freepers that demanded we reelect Bhoner and the turtle?

Just wait till they officially cave. Some people here should be offering heartfelt apologies to America.


38 posted on 11/10/2014 4:16:13 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I do too.


39 posted on 11/10/2014 4:16:59 PM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Mariner
Boner will not have enough votes to pass that crap even with all the Democrats.

He best not ignore the 'Hasert Rule' too much, or he'll be on the end of a political rope.

/johnny

40 posted on 11/10/2014 4:17:44 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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