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NY Couple Who Refused To Hold Lesbian Wedding Ceremony On Property Facing $13,000 Fine
Western Journalism ^ | 11/10/2014 | HEATHER LASKIN

Posted on 11/10/2014 3:23:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

OMG What happened to Jenny McCarthy? Looks like too many Bon Bons =]


21 posted on 11/10/2014 4:05:42 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: SeekAndFind

No wonder. What guy would want THAT?


22 posted on 11/10/2014 4:07:05 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (STOP flights and immigration from HOT Zones . . .NOW)
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To: SeekAndFind
i still say you don't say no, you simply make it the worst day you can... spread fresh liquid manure, laugh at the guests, what ever you can to just generally make it as unpleasant as possible and no laws are broken by turning them down
23 posted on 11/10/2014 4:07:45 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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24 posted on 11/10/2014 4:07:48 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t understand their claiming a split here with refusing to hold the ceremony but being just fine with hosting the reception?

And of the $13K, poor, injured NYS gets $10K ???


25 posted on 11/10/2014 4:13:13 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Karl Spooner

“Probably why they are not under Gods protection. “

Who on earth are you to say they are not under God’s protection?

Astonishing arrogance.

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26 posted on 11/10/2014 4:16:39 PM PST by Mears
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To: Mears

like


27 posted on 11/10/2014 4:27:04 PM PST by blu
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To: Mears
Who on earth are you to say they are not under God’s protection? Astonishing arrogance.

Support Homos and find out. I advise you do not do so according to God's word.

28 posted on 11/10/2014 4:33:06 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: SeekAndFind

So NY is okay with taping someone without their knowledge?


29 posted on 11/10/2014 4:34:44 PM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many places did they call FIRST before they found one they can sue?


30 posted on 11/10/2014 4:38:44 PM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: dandiegirl; taxcontrol; Reno89519; SeekAndFind; A_Former_Democrat

We lost all our rights to freedom of association in 64’ because no one objected when private businesses were treated the same as utilities and governments as “Public Accommodations.” The precedent is set for the government to force businesses to serve protected classes of people and once that was accepted it was only a matter of time before well funded homosexuals became “protected.” We may recieve some protection for “religious objection” but without a radical shift in the zeitgiest I don’t see businesses escaping this.


31 posted on 11/10/2014 4:38:53 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: SeekAndFind

People the law is on the side of the nasties now, the fags and dykes. Just tell the fags and dykes you are BOOKED UP, or your going to get trashed like these two did.


32 posted on 11/10/2014 4:54:26 PM PST by Gasshog (DemoKKKrats: Leaders of the Free Stuff World)
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"The Lesbians will file under 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause."

The problem with filing under 14th Amendment (14A) Equal Protections Clause (EPC) is the following. The states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay “rights,” gay marriage in this example. So misguided, constitutionally clueless NY state officials are actually in blatant violation of Section 1 of 14A for trying to use vote winning, but constitutionally unprotected pro-gay state policies to trump constitutionally enumerated rights which 14A expressly prohibits the states from doing.

Regarding how constitutional lawmakers had intended for 14A to be understood, consider that the Supreme Court has historically clarified that 14A did not add new rights to the Constitution as “blind leading the blind" NY officials are evidently trying to suggest by trumpeting the EPC like constitutionaly clueless, special-interest bureaucrats in other states are.

“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

In fact, the Supreme Court’s clarification of 14A reasonably reflects John Bingham’s official clarification of that amendment in the congressional record, Bingham the main author of Section 1 of 14A where the EPC is found.

“Mr. Speaker, this House may safely follow the example of the makers of the Constitution and the builders of the Republic, by passing laws for enforcing all the privileges and immunities of the United States as guaranteed by the amended Constitution and expressly enumerated in the Constitution [emphasis added].” — Congressional Globe, House of Representatives, 42nd Congress, 1st Session. (See lower half of third column.)

Again, misguided, pro-gay NY state officials are foolishly following in the misdirected, 14A-violating footsteps of pro-gay activist officials in other states.

33 posted on 11/10/2014 5:06:15 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: SeekAndFind

We need to stop responding to these evil people with common decency, that is speaking truthfully as if they deserved an honest and polite response (and a polite refusal is a whole lot nicer than what they should get under this precedent). We do not answer openly when speaking to a robber or a rapist, and these people are on the same moral level.

When witches like this demand service (and any request that can be enforced by activist courts should be treated as a demand), the response should be a polite “yes”, followed by a contract that clearly states no penalty for non-performance, and a last-minute cancellation due to an unforeseen issue.

It’s a shame that we can’t politely agree to tolerate each other when the abnormal side seeks out those who are most revolted by their perversion and then tries to compel active participation, but those are the rules they have chosen to impose on decent people.

Given the rules they have chosen, we should comply with the letter of the law. Perverts don’t want their “special” day ruined, and they will seek out those who actually want to profit from their pretend “wedding” rather than seeking those who most want to be left alone.


34 posted on 11/10/2014 5:12:23 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Prince of Space

New York allows a person who is a party to the conversation to tape a call. Recording a conversation that you are not a party to is a crime in NYS. Here there appears to be some question whether the lesbian having the conversation was the one who taped it. The article makes it appear that the other Lesbian, who was not on the phone, did the recording of the conversation.


35 posted on 11/10/2014 5:55:08 PM PST by LJM
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To: taxcontrol

In a true Constitutional Republic, here can be no conflict: Rights require no 2nd/3rd party to utilize. A nation of Laws (consequences of actions).

Course, that means the 16th/SS/welfare can’t negate the 4th/5th/6th/13th/etc., nor would there exist SS, Welfare....IE: The issue would be moot; as States would tell the Fed to F* off and worry/do their job as delegated.

Yeah, an antiquated notion these days


36 posted on 11/10/2014 5:55:35 PM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is about money to the state. Notice their “mental anguish” share is $10,000, while the lesbians take is only $1,500 each. New York is not free anymore, if it ever was. When the state can dictate to a business who they are forced to do business with, tyranny is already here. Freedom and liberties of America are no longer available for those who reside and conduct commerce in New York. Get out while the gettins good.


37 posted on 11/10/2014 6:35:12 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s start a Gifford Defense Fund...we need to pitch in a help the Giffords. When a business is forced to do something... it means we aren’t free. Will FR have to have DU members on here?


38 posted on 11/10/2014 6:44:57 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The Lesbians will file under 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause.”

That only applies to state action, not private.


39 posted on 04/16/2015 2:55:20 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no such thing as a lesbian wedding.


40 posted on 04/16/2015 2:57:50 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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