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To: jimbo123

Obama is very big on setting up that straw man, and knocking it down.

So because we can’t or won’t deport 11 million people, that means we have to have an executive amnesty?

So because Congress has waited too long, in Obama’s opinion, to act on an issue, that means we have to have an executive amnesty?

Does any of this make sense to any of you??


2 posted on 11/09/2014 8:04:17 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If only it were just 11 million. The true number is closer to 35 million.


3 posted on 11/09/2014 8:08:56 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Just go "Full Eisenhower" if Obambi tries "Full Mussolini"

When newly elected Dwight Eisenhower moved into the White House, America's southern frontier was as porous as a spaghetti sieve. As many as 3 million illegal migrants had walked and waded northward over a period of several years for jobs in California, Arizona, Texas, and points beyond.

In 1954, Ike appointed retired Gen. Joseph "Jumpin' Joe" Swing, a former West Point classmate and veteran of the 101st Airborne, as the new INS commissioner.

Influential politicians, including Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) of Texas and Sen. Pat McCarran (D) of Nevada, favored open borders, and were dead set against strong border enforcement, Brownell said. But General Swing's close connections to the president shielded him – and the Border Patrol – from meddling by powerful political and corporate interests.

One of Swing's first decisive acts was to transfer certain entrenched immigration officials out of the border area to other regions of the country where their political connections with people such as Senator Johnson would have no effect.

Then on June 17, 1954, what was called "Operation Wetback" began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.

By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas.

By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.

Unlike today, Mexicans caught in the roundup were not simply released at the border, where they could easily reenter the US. To discourage their return, Swing arranged for buses and trains to take many aliens deep within Mexico before being set free.

Tens of thousands more were put aboard two hired ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried the aliens from Port Isabel, Texas, to Vera Cruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles south.

The sea voyage was "a rough trip, and they did not like it," says Don Coppock, who worked his way up from Border Patrolman in 1941 to eventually head the Border Patrol from 1960 to 1973.

(From Christian Science Monitor at http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html)

8 posted on 11/09/2014 8:14:05 AM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

A very good argument could be made that the the Dems lost the Senate because they took up the immigration bill to begin with. It was the only thing they passd in four years and it got them bounced. The House is under no obligation to pass anything for immigration. Perhaps Obama’s patience is wearing thin, but who give’s a rats ass? It’s how our system of checks and balances works. The reason noting is passed is because there is no consensus.

The biggest reason any law about anything doesn’t pass the House, Senate, and Executive branch is because it does not have popular support. Amnesty does not have popular support. In fact, ‘not doing amnesty’ is what has popular support. If this wasn’t the case, Obama would have done amnesty years and years ago.

Any Immigration Bill should be done in three parts with success of the first part leading to beginning the next part.

Part 1-Secure he borders, including e-ID’s for any and all workers, penalties for employers, deportation of people here in our country illegaly.

Part 2-Following Part 2-Reform our immigration policies. What type of immigrant do we need? How many? If you do not show up to an immigration hearing, you are automatically deported.

Part 3-Deal with people here illegally in a humane fashion. What that means is to be determined.


12 posted on 11/09/2014 8:18:57 AM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Republicans are already behind the curve on this. They had better get out front and fast. Their idle threats and posturing are not going to deter Obama one bit. Pubbies need to commit to a well thought out plan of action right now to stop this wanton abuse of power. And that plan has to have teeth. Otherwise, why should Obama back off if there are no real consequences to him?


16 posted on 11/09/2014 8:21:29 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’ve got an idea, let’s toss it back in the bastard’s lap.

Let’s reach out to black voters and get their opinion on 30 million brand new illegals to compete with for scarce jobs?

What will that do to them as a voting block? They will be of lessor value than they already were.

Grits, greens, and fried chicken may become outlawed. OK, that one isn’t likely.

Welfare will have to be cut way back, they’re is only so much to go around.

What will their neighborhoods look like, who wins the turf war?

They struggle with the English language, how will their ebonic speaking kids deal with Spanish?

Feed the Demonrats their identity politics back to them on a stick.


18 posted on 11/09/2014 8:33:18 AM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If e-verify enforced, all but hard cases will go back where they still have homes and families. Deport the criminals with hard timefor re-entry.


20 posted on 11/09/2014 8:41:00 AM PST by amihow
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The Dems had two years to pass any immigration bill they wanted. They passed Obamacare without a single GOP vote.


23 posted on 11/09/2014 8:49:09 AM PST by kabar
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To: Dilbert San Diego

We can’t catch all speeders either but we still have laws. Why doesn’t a real politician call him on these lies? EVERYONE does not agree.


50 posted on 11/10/2014 6:28:19 AM PST by Tspud1
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