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1 posted on 11/08/2014 3:44:04 AM PST by Jerrybob
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https://www.billwhittle.com/firewall/give-back-senate


2 posted on 11/08/2014 3:44:34 AM PST by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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it would be nice . . .

Imagine, living under the Constitution as it is supposed to be and not as it has been bastardized by the politicians.

Oh, the Joy!
7 posted on 11/08/2014 4:43:37 AM PST by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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It is the same reason the war between the states was fought, states rights.

The whittling away at the powers reserved by the states is the biggest danger we face.

He is right- a state is sovereign and is allowed to decide virtually everything. If it wants to educate in a certain way or treat abortions one way, or increase taxes, it is allowed to.

People who do not want this are free to move to anot her state, e.g. onerous taxes in Massachusetts can be avoided by moving to Texas.

There is no relief if the feds dictate. That is the power libs want and need to survive.


12 posted on 11/08/2014 5:41:17 AM PST by bestintxas (Every time a RINO is defeated a Founding Father gets his wings.)
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Don’t stop with just repealing the 17th amendment, we need to start dividing electoral votes for POTUS by congressional district. No more winner take all!

Michigan now has the veto proof Republican majority in both houses of the state legislature to do exactly that.

We need to pressure them to do it!


13 posted on 11/08/2014 5:41:42 AM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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Repealing the 17th should be the Conservative Crusade. Its ratification is what set the nation on the road to totalitarian centralism. Without it some of the states, like California and Maryland, might still be despotic, perhaps worse than they are anyway, but that would just be in those states. It wouldn't blanket the nation.

Kill the 17th, then start the paring down, starting with killing or modifying Civil Service so that the bureaucracy is not set in concrete.

Then start killing the Departments-EPA, DOE, DOE, etc. back to the original 4.

14 posted on 11/08/2014 5:50:07 AM PST by arthurus
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NOTHING in this Amendment prevents the STATE LEGISLATURES from Electing Senators. It just says “elected by the people thereof” well didn’t the People Thereof Elect the Legislators?? And cannot the People Thereof entrust this job to the Legislators??

What would Washington do if a State Legislature just sent 2 Senators they ELECTED at the behest of “the people thereof”?

Since we don’t have any Governors or State Legislatures with the balls to stand up and just Send 2 Senators that were duly elected by the Legislators, we will never find out.

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the state legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any state in the Senate, the executive authority of such state shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, that the legislature of any state may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution


19 posted on 11/13/2014 2:00:47 PM PST by eyeamok
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