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To: PieterCasparzen
That is not true, coffee and tea are not mind-altering.

Yes, they are. Look it up. And you want to turn control of "mind altering" drugs over to a government that wants to regulate how much CO2 you can produce because it's a "pollutant".

Do you understand the concept of "unintended consequences"?

58 posted on 11/06/2014 8:03:00 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
If there were no laws at all about drugs - at all - except that drunkenness was against the law, that would Scriptural. However, to be Scriptural, we would ALSO need to have laws against the bigtime purveyors of nasty, poisonous substances that hurt millions of duped sheeple.

In other words, if you're selling something like opium and hurting people, you get prosecuted, convicted, jailed and fined in the amount of your ill-gotten gains, and you make restitution to those you have harmed.

Such laws would cover both legal and illegal drugs.

So opiates could be used for pain relief when medically necessary (MUCH less than today) - but that's it.

Scripture exhorts against drunkenness, which makes perfect sense given that the New Testament tells us that the Holy Spirit dwells within the believer and helps them to overcome temptation to sin. That means it is governing the mind, keeping one's mind from directing one's body to commit sins. While the believer may think sins - and that the Bible tells us IS also sinful, so we are by no means free of sin and we still "fall short of the glory of God" - they will find themselves "putting on a new man", that is, being able to resist temptations that they used to never be able to resist. Now if one is drunk, the Holy Spirit is not there - because it can not be overcome - it is God. Therefore the drunkard is by no means converted and the Bible tells us so.

Regarding looking up about coffee/tea being mind-altering, I have zero faith in the honesty of the research establishment, which is anti-Christ and secular-humanist.

They are the authors of glo-bull warming lies.

Every other week there is a headline saying coffee is great - or coffee is poison - alternating weeks.

Meaning, you can get a scientist somewhere who will write any study you want if you're paying well.

This country and the British Empire were to a great extent built on opium wealth, and the "power behind the throne" of America are the world's biggest drug lords. There are direct linkages between them and the drug lords of the 1700's/1800's. These people are commonly referred to as "new world order".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jardine,_Matheson_%26_Co.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Russell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Huntington_Russell

Yes, the Boston bomber's wife was a Russell.

Warren Delano, FDR's grandpa, was a drug lord:

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/28/opinion/the-opium-war-s-secret-history.html

Those links are only a tiny sampling, if I had time I could list thousands of links.

The Opium Wars were fought because the Western opium drug lords were destroying the Chinese people and the Emperor did not like it. Too bad, he lost the wars, and the new world order elites have run roughshod over the Chinese people ever since.

Our government in Washington, DC, is permeated with and run by such evil people.

They alternate between making drugs legal and illegal, either way they profit massively. The governments of the world, Russia and China, as well as the West, UK/US/etc., along with the third world - are all narco states.

The drug lord "pillars of society" make all sorts of blatant lies like saying that heroin is no different than coffee and get the sheeple to repeat the lies.

Skull and Bones, the college fraternity of the drug lords, has had its members at the head of the CIA since its inception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal

In the old days they were essentially pirates, ergo the Skull and Bones symbol.

They are globalism - new world order - and their people are the core of the leadership of the fields of finance and espionage.

Pharma companies are thoroughly new world order, from their beginnings, and they have always dealt in all these sorts of drugs - from the legal side. And this is not just US pharma companies, but all the biggies around the world, as they all have always had interlocking relationships with each other and other new world order companies and organizations.

There is Senate committee public testimony that CIA and pharma companies have always had extensive working relationships on demented projects, under the guise of "national security".

Until new world order is put out of business permanently, they will continue to attack the sheeple. They are the elites who "puff" at the poor:

Psalm 10

"1 Why standest thou afar off, O Lord? why hidest thou thyself in times of trouble?

2 The wicked in his pride doth persecute the poor: let them be taken in the devices that they have imagined.

3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the Lord abhorreth.

4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.

5 His ways are always grievous; thy judgments are far above out of his sight: as for all his enemies, he puffeth at them.

6 He hath said in his heart, I shall not be moved: for I shall never be in adversity.

7 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity.

8 He sitteth in the lurking places of the villages: in the secret places doth he murder the innocent: his eyes are privily set against the poor.

9 He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net.

10 He croucheth, and humbleth himself, that the poor may fall by his strong ones.

11 He hath said in his heart, God hath forgotten: he hideth his face; he will never see it.

12 Arise, O Lord; O God, lift up thine hand: forget not the humble.

13 Wherefore doth the wicked contemn God? he hath said in his heart, Thou wilt not require it.

14 Thou hast seen it; for thou beholdest mischief and spite, to requite it with thy hand: the poor committeth himself unto thee; thou art the helper of the fatherless.

15 Break thou the arm of the wicked and the evil man: seek out his wickedness till thou find none.

16 The Lord is King for ever and ever: the heathen are perished out of his land.

17 Lord, thou hast heard the desire of the humble: thou wilt prepare their heart, thou wilt cause thine ear to hear:

18 To judge the fatherless and the oppressed, that the man of the earth may no more oppress."

Psalm 12

"1 Help, Lord; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men.

2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.

3 The Lord shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things:

4 Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?

5 For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the Lord; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.

6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted."
65 posted on 11/06/2014 9:04:05 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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