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The Pyrrhic Victory: Tuesday Could End the GOP
Breitbart: The Conversation ^ | November 2, 2014 | Dan Riehl

Posted on 11/03/2014 8:06:04 AM PST by Bratch

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To: goldstategop
You are assuming that voting will still be an option in 2016. I don't think there were many who thought that Obama and his ilk could take us down so fast, but he did. To assume that he can't totally tank the country in the next two years may be a little naive?

Now back to happy thoughts.

41 posted on 11/03/2014 8:35:25 AM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: KevinB
I despise the RINOs as much as you do, but I despise Dems more. Let's weed out the Democrats then weed out the RINOs.

No longer believe this is a successful approach. GOP must be de-ratted first. Too many RATS on the R first team...until perhaps after tomorrow.
42 posted on 11/03/2014 8:36:03 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: goldstategop

Mitchie-poo channeled his inner Democrat when he said he couldn’t do anything about 0bamacare. Gee, he tried so hard....


43 posted on 11/03/2014 8:37:11 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (I'M WITH CRUZ!)
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To: goldstategop

If you don’t vote you have no right to go around crying about the state of the Union because you passed up your personal chance to try to change it.


44 posted on 11/03/2014 8:37:52 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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When Inheard that remark by Romney, all that I thought was thank goodness that Romney isn’t in the Senate and doesn’t really have any idea what the Senate will do.

I voted Romney because I thought that he would have been better than Obama. No other reason. Romney is weak in the same way that Bush was weak (and Rand Paul, too) he confuses winning an election with being voted Homecoming King.


45 posted on 11/03/2014 8:38:07 AM PST by Eva
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To: ScottinVA

It is called voter suppression.


46 posted on 11/03/2014 8:38:51 AM PST by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush)
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To: dforest

The GOP tossed my decent senate candidate an anchor back in September. (She’s anti amnesty, supports a full repeal of Obamacare and returning power to the states) The idiots sitting out the election are the ones doing the most to help the GOPe.

In any case, its going to be a lot closer race than anyone thinks because the MI GOP is firmly backing her and there is a surprisingly strong ground game going on under the radar.


47 posted on 11/03/2014 8:39:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: KevinB

We can do both.


48 posted on 11/03/2014 8:44:04 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: goldstategop

if the GOP win, and DON’T make good on their promises, then certainly they will deserve to die.


49 posted on 11/03/2014 8:44:09 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: caligatrux

I think the definition of RINO has changed in recent years. Back in the day we used to call them Rockefeller Republicans. Senators like Lowell Weicker, Jacob Javits, Arlen Spector, Olympia Snowe, Jim Jeffords, John Chafee, Charles Mathias etc. And they REALLY were liberal Republicans, mostly from the northeast.

I do not think most GOP senators today are anywhere near this liberal. Sen. Mitch McConnell has a lifetime ACU rating of 96%. Sen. Pat Roberts is ranked as one of the ten most conservative members of the US Senate. To classify these senators as RINOs is simply absurd. Nothing in life is perfect, least of all politics. There is no such thing as utopia or perfection in the political world. One thing the far right has in common with far left is an almost child like insistence on purity. As Ronald Reagan once said, politics is the world’s second oldest profession. We have to work with what we have. Here in CA where I have I live, ALL Democrats are Marxists. No exceptions. I have always voted the straight GOP ticket since I have lived here. Not that every Republican I have ever voted for was perfect. Far from it. But without exception, every single Republican candidate I have ever voted for was much closer to my own personal views than any Democrat. Politics isn’t rocket science. It’s very simple. You work with what you have. There is no time for day dreaming.


50 posted on 11/03/2014 8:44:41 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: cripplecreek
I will keep an eye on Michigan tomorrow night. Indiana hasn't got a big stake in it all this year. No Senate races this year.

But...I decided it is a good year to get rid of local Rats because the dem turnout here won't be very big.

My niece was going to sit it all out, but I got her to get out and just vote against democrats for every office!

51 posted on 11/03/2014 8:45:14 AM PST by dforest
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

Agreed. I’ll be voting. “Not” voting is precisely what the Dems want to see. I’m not rolling over and giving them what they want.


52 posted on 11/03/2014 8:50:14 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: caligatrux

“The conservatives are frogs in the water pot...”

Conservatives are stuck in a situation remarkably similar to that a junkie. At one time, the GOP actually was the party of conservatives. It was great! There was NO question about which party to vote for. At an ever increasing pace, the GOP hardly embodies the conservative principles people of this nation are seeking. So now, the discussion across the country, and on Free Republic in particular, is along the lines of ‘You MUST shoot up this heroin just this one more time and avoid the inevitable pain and deep soul searching. Buy into the illusion that this will somehow bring the satisfaction it used. After all, what are you going to do? Become one of those meth heads?’


53 posted on 11/03/2014 8:51:45 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: dforest

I’m appealing to classic liberals and libertarians on the basis that Terri Land is a strong opponent of our DC-centric senate. Leaving more taxes in the state and hands of the people will empower us right here at him.

“Returning the power of infrastructure to the states” is a banner the GOP as a whole would do well to pick up.


54 posted on 11/03/2014 8:52:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: goldstategop

I vote absentee and this year I’m hand carrying my son’s ballot. I making sure his vote is counted while he is serving with the Marines. Jerry Brown will probably win, but I want the margin to be as small as possible.


55 posted on 11/03/2014 8:53:35 AM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

We can argue semantics and individual examples all you want.

My point is that when the Democrat party wins, liberalism wins. But a GOP victory is not necessarily a conservative victory. In fact, the GOP has shown it’s willingness to stomp on conservatives to move it’s own party agenda ahead.


56 posted on 11/03/2014 8:55:23 AM PST by caligatrux (They always said that the living would envy the dead.)
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To: caligatrux

If you look at the results of the US Senate primaries, you might conclude it was a victory of the GOPes over the TPs.

However, what it really underscores is the fact that entrenched incumbents usually win against upstarts. This is especially true in primaries. It has always been that way in American politics. ALWAYS difficult to unseat an entrenched incumbent. The surprise upset of Eric Cantor this year was more of an exception to the rule and a prime example of what can happen when you underestimate an opponent.


57 posted on 11/03/2014 9:02:31 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Carthego delenda est

An interesting analogy with some truth to it.

But the current political dynamic is so much more complex it’s hard to simplfy. It’s both a Catch 22 and a false Catch 22 at the same time. You have to stop the immediate threat without further empowering the same thing you are fighting. But even that is too simplistic.


58 posted on 11/03/2014 9:03:48 AM PST by caligatrux (They always said that the living would envy the dead.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

But you are proving my point for me. Supporting the GOP, encumbent or otherwise, tends to hurt the more conservative movements. Yes, it hurts the ultra-liberal movements, but what is the ultimate cost?

I’m not advocating against voting or even against the GOP, I’m just trying to pull it out, examine it and work through it rather than just knee-jerk react.


59 posted on 11/03/2014 9:10:42 AM PST by caligatrux (They always said that the living would envy the dead.)
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To: goldstategop

It is just a start. Much work to be done. Or undone in this case.


60 posted on 11/03/2014 9:11:45 AM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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