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To: dforest

It’s difficult to dislodge NWO because of several basic factors, like, if they have problems in nation A, and are really being booted out, they can influence nations B, C and D to go to war against nation A. Or they can economically destroy it through global trade and banking. Or they can destroy it through massive criminality and immorality in covert operations. Once destroyed, they can place puppets back in power to rule on their behalf.

There needs to be a massive public realization to make it difficult for them to cause wars, easier to prosecute them, etc.

Regarding Russia and Putin, of course he is speaking on several levels and to several audiences, not just the one in front of him.

So while on one level his speech sounds very good to Christians and people who love Christian liberty (not anti-Christ liberty), we simply are not privy to backchannel conversations and we do not know his mind.

I know the ideal that I would like to see in my mind - but if Putin is actually literally presenting that ideal then he is trying to move away from generations - 100 years - of backchannel elite relationships.

Is he perhaps simply trying to steer the elites ? Is he really doing that ? Or just simply appealing to Christians and (true) conservatives that he is, but in reality his loyalty is to the elites and he is manipulating us on their behalf ?

Is he telling the elites he’s working for them, but in his heart wanting to drop them and move towards a “different” new world order, one absent the elites, and perhaps it’s simply not possible to make that change without the elites getting the boot from the US, UK, Europe and China at the same time ? I would think that he would think it impossible for that to happen.

The elites’ influence is so pervasive in our government and business world the tricks at their disposal are extremely powerful and numerous, and they can give anyone a very hard time if they so desire.

However we should remember that with God all things are possible; we should read the Old Testament regarding the archetype of God and his relationship with his covenant people - those who believe in him and his only begotten Son Jesus Christ. We should consider what happened when God’s people looked to him first, what happened when they looked elsewhere first, etc.

We must think clearly - is the Great Commission to be a failure ? That makes utterly no sense at all, that Christ would instruct to spread the gospel message to all nations, given that Matthew 22:44 “The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?” Thus, the Bible teaches the advancement of Christ’s Kingdom, succeeding in time and history, thus eventually Christ wins, and all nations bow the knee to Christ. This was always the predominant understanding of Scripture from the early Church until about the 19th century.

The key to dislodging the current criminal “powers” seems to be shining light on their evil:

Ephesians 6:12 “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”

Principalities are governments. Powers, it only makes sense, are such as these elite financial interests that are anti-Christ, Satanic, even if they “go to Church”, or set up their own Churches, etc. The Rockefellers actually set up their own wicked heathen Church in NYC:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverside_Church

Truth has to come out on a large scale in order to protect against the elites simply shutting down the truth about themselves. The sheeple have to wake up and get informed about the activities past and present of the Satanic financial elites. The sheeple have to research, carefully ignoring wacky disinformation published by the elites about themselves, and focus on the parts that are true and matter.

This truth coming out has to be a broad movement with no leaders, so there is no small set of people that can be silenced to end or subvert the movement.

Politicians can then follow or be replaced. Politicians can’t lead on this without a movement, or the elites will simply replace them, one way or the other.

I was very happy to see some Reformed Presbyterian within Russia. It can be a great challenge to throw away unscriptural traditions of men (like feast days and holidays) upon conversion to true faith in Christ, but the rewards are the greatest of all, indescribable happiness, in that the believer has the comfort of knowing they are serving Christ as he commanded, not according to our own inventions. God willing, whole churches will drop their holidays and promote the local civil government instead honoring the Christian Sabbath, the Lord’s Day, by closing all business other than acts of necessity and mercy.

As terrible as things may look in the worldly world, I am constantly in the most joyous state of knowing the promises of God in Scripture, resting in hope in Christ Jesus and the Word of God. It is as if everything bad just bounces off me, even in pain and sorrow.

Psalm 18:33 “33 He maketh my feet like hinds’ feet, and setteth me upon my high places.”

Psalm 23

“1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.”


78 posted on 10/31/2014 1:14:27 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Problem is that most people can’t or don’t see what is really happening in front of their faces. Maybe it is denial for some, maybe ignorance and indoctrination for others.

Every thing that is happening is because of the implementation of the NWO. Some of us argue that the NWO is not going to happen because “Geesh, these people can’t do anything well”. That may be true, but having a “well run” NWO will never happen because it is a mistake.

It will be chaos with the elite battle for power in their regions. The sheeple in those regions will be at their mercy and have no power at all.

This battle with Putin is very obvious. The US/EU want to gobble up more territory and resources and Putin isn’t having it. He also wants to gobble up the same to up his status in the battle for the top of the order.

It is so clear that the US picked theis battle with Putin and they did it with lies. Those lies were easy for them becaause they know many in the US still think of Russia as the Soviet Empire. But it isn’t, not really. All they had to do was rekindle the cold war fear to get the sheep on thir side. But do I really want to be on the side of either one of thses entities?

People wonder why Obam hates the US so. He actually is not an American President. His interests are global. America has to be transformed and brought down to become equal to others in the region. He will open the borders for good and let this place be flooded with people from all over the world. He will chip away at any Ameican identity and culture. He will get rid of private ownership of anything.

All of this is happening now with lightning speed. People wonder why the GOP elites will not allow conservatives a chance. They won’t because they are not agreeable to the idea of a NWO. If anyone really believes we will have a true conservative as a POTUS candidate in 2016, they are delusional.

The NWO crowd is playing for keeps. Is there a chance to stop this? There probably is. As you said, a mass awakening of the sheeple would have to happen. There are more sheeple than there are NWO elites. But.....they have been very good with the divide and conquer games. They divide the masses into groups and then pit them against each other using the politics of grievances and hate. As long as we buy into the bread and circuses the divisions create, we are not watching what they are really doing to us. Are people going to wake up to that? I rather doubt it.

Many years ago there was an article where someone was speaking with Daddy Bush. He said something that chilled me. It was something like. “If the people really ever knew what we do, and how we do it, the people would rise up and come after us. After all, there are more of them than there are of us.”


80 posted on 10/31/2014 6:20:25 AM PDT by dforest
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