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To: WayneS; Mozilla; Lazamataz; RIghtwardHo
. . . I'm closing my eyes and jumping into the briar patch.

I've grown to agree with a distinction somewhat like RIghtwardHo's. We have voter fraud, but we also have election fraud.

When a New York snowbird is registered in New York and Florida and votes in both places, that's voter fraud. When someone casts the write-in ballot for a dead relative, or a former resident, or votes in person and casts an absentee ballot, that's voter fraud. When a non-citizen registers to vote using a driver's license obtained through the Motor Voter law, and then casts a vote, that's voter fraud.

However, if a voting machine is 'calibrated' to switch R votes to D, that's election fraud. If a 'grassroots' group collects discarded ballots and uses them to generate a few hundred votes, that's election fraud. When a person votes in person and casts an absentee ballot and they were taught to do so by a an organized group or political party, it smells more like election fraud to me than voter fraud. When a union or the local D generate records of voters, sometimes alphabetical, who didn't actually vote, that's election fraud. ACORN was election fraud, not voter fraud. Ad infinitum.

I personally think the number of fraudulent votes generated by what I would term "election fraud" outweighs the number of fraudulent votes generated by what I would term "voter fraud," but I'm the person making the distinction between the two categories and I'm the person making the guess. I'm not doing any math.

However, I don't dismiss voter fraud. I think voter fraud is a problem. As I differentiate the terms, I'd guess that election fraud creates more fraudulent votes than voter fraud because that's what I pulled out of my hat. However, voter fraud is a problem.

32 posted on 10/29/2014 3:50:12 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Opinions don't affect facts. But facts should affect opinions, and do, if you're rational)
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To: Scoutmaster; WayneS; Mozilla; RIghtwardHo

In normal cases, I might agree. But RIghtward HO pisses on every good idea we have, and always has nothing but Debbie Downer comments. He’s a Concern Troll, who may have accidentally tipped the hand on what the liberals do en-masse with the election fraud.


35 posted on 10/29/2014 5:05:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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