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'60 Minutes' Just Broke New Details On The Dallas Ebola Case. Here's What They Revealed.
Forbes ^ | 10/26/2014 | Dan Diamond

Posted on 10/26/2014 8:28:48 PM PDT by RightGeek

You may think you know the details of what happened in Dallas. But 60 Minutes asks you to think again.

60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley sat down with four of the nurses who treated Thomas Duncan, the initial Ebola patient.

Here’s what we learned.

1. Whether intentionally or not, Duncan misled authorities about his exposure to Ebola.

When Duncan first presented to the hospital on September 25, he didn’t specify that he’d come from Liberia or even West Africa — the center of the Ebola outbreak.

Duncan only said he’d returned from “Africa,” which could’ve meant one of dozens of nations, most of them far from the Ebola outbreak. Perhaps the nurses could’ve pressed him further. But with Duncan’s symptoms not that severe yet, and with no real reason to think he had Ebola, they sent him home.

After Duncan was re-admitted to the hospital three days later, significantly sicker, the hospital suspected Ebola might be the cause. But even then, Duncan wasn’t wholly honest. He said he hadn’t been exposed to anyone who was sick from Ebola, even though later reports revealed that Duncan had bravely helped carry an Ebola-infected woman to a local hospital in Liberia.

Duncan also told a nurse that he’d buried his daughter who died in childbirth — but he said that she hadn’t died from Ebola. Duncan later denied the story to federal officials.

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(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cbs; dallas; duncan; ebola; texas
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To: mdmathis6

Yes. You are correct.

The nurses do the sorting. The doc does the orders.

I know that, and as I re-read my comments it does not sound like I knew it.

Thanks for clarifying that.


81 posted on 10/27/2014 5:44:58 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: silverleaf

Once I read of him having gastrointestinal problems, I knew he was at that stage.

Sad.

Maybe that sue-happy, CDC, liberal, quarantined b-word needs to be assigned to care for him. Being that she is such a generous, giving person and all. Ssssssssssssss........


82 posted on 10/27/2014 5:49:10 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Bobalu

I don’t think that we have gotten far enough in the process to have a “vaccine.” The antibodies are given after the person tests positive for Ebola; same with Zmapp. I don’t know that we have the right path yet for preventing infection to begin with.


83 posted on 10/27/2014 5:50:34 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: cynwoody; GreyFriar

There are some video reports from Liberia where the people are yelling at reporters: No Ebola here.

They are very distrustful of their government (sound familiar) after the recent years of war. The impoverished areas of the towns on these videos was depressing. But the “no ebola here” mantra was loud and clear.

Even as family members died and crews arrived to retrieve bodies for burial, they stood by “they didn’t die from ebola” and would not allow safe disposal of the bodies.


84 posted on 10/27/2014 5:56:08 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Hoodat

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85 posted on 10/27/2014 6:00:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (Obama would rather we die than offend West Africa. - freeper goldstategop (same for the CDC))
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To: RightGeek

The Obola conceit was that ebola could be contained in an American isolation ward. That proved to be wrong. It took specialized rooms and staff at CDC, NIH and Omaha. There are, probably, less than 20 beds in the country capable of ebola treatment.


86 posted on 10/27/2014 6:03:51 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: silverleaf

Ebola is nearly the perfect killing machine. Its rather eerie actually when you go over the scientific details of the virus.


87 posted on 10/27/2014 6:21:55 AM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: MNDude
Gross!! TMI!

Perhaps it's not for conversation around the dinner table, but people need to know--Ebola is not like the common cold or flu, and it's far, far worse than food poisoning. The virus literally takes over your entire body, turning live cells dead, and replacing them with Ebola.

88 posted on 10/27/2014 6:24:31 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Kozak
Nausea and Vomiting: Mechanisms and Treatment (Advances in Applied Neurological Sciences)

Why Does Man Vomit?: An Hypothesis Involving the Hierarchical Organization of a Toxin Defense System

There are several mechanisms by which an animal may protect its body, and most importantly the CNS [central nervous system], from damage by ingested toxins. These may be placed in order of temporal effectiveness, the most immediately effective coming first:

1. The smell or taste of potential foodstuffs which may be avoided due to innate or learned behaviour

2. The detection of toxins by receptors in the gut followed by a central reflex producing an appropriate response; nausea to prevent further consumption, inhibition of gastric motility to confine the toxin to the stomach, and, if necessary, vomiting to purge the system of the already ingested (but not necessarily yet absorbed) toxin

3. The placing of a sensor located within the CNS to detect circulating toxins. This would provide a vomiting signal probably followed by central integration ultimately leading to vomiting.

89 posted on 10/27/2014 6:26:37 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Shelayne

To all who replied; I stand corrected.
Thank you.
But I still view EVERYTHING being done by See-BS, et al with suspicion. Who do you think every man Jack of them will scurry off and vote for next Tuesday? Lowlife statist heathen, anti-God liberals, that’s who!


90 posted on 10/27/2014 6:29:38 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: RightGeek

So much for the Duncan family lawsuit.


91 posted on 10/27/2014 6:31:20 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kozak
Diarrhea Overview

According to two researchers, Nesse and Williams, diarrhea may function as an evolved expulsion defense mechanism. As a result, if it is stopped, there might be a delay in recovery.[21] They cite in support of this argument research published in 1973 which found that treating Shigella with the anti-diarrhea drug (Lomotil) caused people to stay feverish twice as long as those not so treated. The researchers indeed themselves observed that: “Lomotil may be contraindicated in shigellosis. Diarrhea may represent a defense mechanism”.[22]

92 posted on 10/27/2014 6:42:51 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

In the case of Ebola the cells of the Gi Tract , AND CNS are infected and dying or are dying from micro emboli and DIC. The Gi tract fails, fills with dead cells, fluids, toxins, begins to slough its lining and that’s where the endless vomit and diarrhea come from. It’s not a protective mechanism in this case.


93 posted on 10/27/2014 6:44:18 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kozak
Evolution and the Origins of Disease

Conflicts with Other Organisms

Natural selection is unable to provide us with perfect protection against all pathogens, because they tend to evolve much faster than humans do. E. coli, for example, with its rapid rates of reproduction, has as much opportunity for mutation and selection in one day as humanity gets in a millennium. And our defenses, whether natural or artificial, make for potent selection forces. Pathogens either quickly evolve a counterdefense or become extinct. Amherst College biologist Paul W. Ewald has suggested classifying phenomena [e.g. coughing, fever, diarrhea, vomiting] associated with infection according to whether they benefit the host, the pathogen, both or neither. Consider the runny nose associated with a cold. Nasal mucous secretion could expel intruders, speed the pathogen's transmission to new hosts or both [see "The Evolution of Virulence," by Paul W. Ewald; Scientific American, April 1993]. Answers could come from studies examining whether blocking nasal secretions shortens or prolongs illness, but few such studies have been done.

94 posted on 10/27/2014 7:26:19 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: norwaypinesavage
I stopped watching 60 Minutes in 1969.

They have been peddling leftist lies for a very long time.

95 posted on 10/27/2014 6:44:54 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: PghBaldy

That’s true too, and a good thing to keep in mind.


96 posted on 10/27/2014 7:45:18 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


97 posted on 10/27/2014 8:52:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: GreyFriar
But it begins with Duncan misleading, aka lying, to the hospital staff about his travel and exposure to Ebola.

Yes, Duncan flat-out lied about his exposure to Ebola -- but CDC still relies on traveler's honesty in "screening" them.

98 posted on 10/28/2014 9:35:17 AM PDT by zot
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