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Travel Ban, Visa Ban—Either Way, It Won’t Work. The only way to stop Ebola is at the source.
Politico ^ | 10/25/2014 | Tara C. Smith

Posted on 10/25/2014 5:12:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: exDemMom
CDC's current esitmate is that 25,000 people are infected in West Africa. That is actually a wild guess, not informed research, based on an assumption that there are 2.5 unrepoted cases for each reported one.

At present trajectory, CDC estimates that the number infected by January will be 1.5 million. That is not a few.

21 posted on 10/25/2014 5:53:31 PM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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To: exDemMom

Thank you for your continued spamming of these Obola threads currentDUmom. As if none of us know the definition of quarantine. If you can GOOGLE maybe you could look up Websters and learn. While you are at it make sure to add my name to Obolas Truth list.


22 posted on 10/25/2014 5:54:30 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: exDemMom

When someone visits a country, they stamp your passport. If an American visits an Ebola country, it will be on their passport.


23 posted on 10/25/2014 6:04:15 PM PDT by anoldafvet (Why would the White House send 3 representatives to a thugs funeral?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Tara Smith has stopped ebola before. She knows.


24 posted on 10/25/2014 6:05:14 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Source?

Where were their passports from, then?


25 posted on 10/25/2014 6:07:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: SeekAndFind
But despite many politicians framing such a ban as a “common sense measure” to protect us from Ebola, a closer look at both the logistics and the history of such bans show that they are anything but.

Despite her impressive credentials, Dr. Smith is wrong. Banning travel is an effective common sense measure when part of an array of measures. Those measures have been known and refined for centuries.

So how is it that Dr. Smith, a respected epidemiologist, repudiates a valid public health tool? From her article a telling word emerges in this phrase; "...and unfairly ensnare anyone from the affected countries..."

The concept of "fair" has no place in public health. It is only legitimate in organized sporting events. Outside of that the concept of fairness is abused by children and liberals.

Adults deal with right and wrong. And it is right for a country to protect its public health. It is right to do so with travel bans.

Time for Dr. Smith to look outside of her ivory tower into the real world.

26 posted on 10/25/2014 6:09:46 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: chajin

Exactly. Because Obama is all about politics, he makes everything a binary choice in terms of good/bad outcomes for him.

He’s got CDC types and the flaming idiot author of this article doing the same.


27 posted on 10/25/2014 6:11:24 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: chajin

Exactly. Because Obama is all about politics, he makes everything a binary choice in terms of good/bad outcomes for him.

He’s got CDC types and the flaming idiot author of this article doing the same.


28 posted on 10/25/2014 6:11:25 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: SeekAndFind
I’m not a physician, but it strikes me that it’s a lot easier to stop a disease at the source if you confine it to the source. No?
29 posted on 10/25/2014 6:12:00 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Remain calm! All is well!...ALL IS WELL!!!")
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To: DoodleDawg

Any country that allows flights out of those countries is also run be crazy people, by the way.


30 posted on 10/25/2014 6:15:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: SeekAndFind
It doesn't have to be 100% successful. It doesn't even have to be 50% successful. If it's 25% successful that's 25% of the cases that will not leave the area.

You don't fight this thing with one tool. You use them all.

31 posted on 10/25/2014 6:15:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: EternalVigilance

Three are Americans: the first two cases of the doctor and the nurse they flew in from Africa for treatment and now the doctor in New York. And then there was a news cameraman they brought back for treatment. I don’t remember where he was from but he wasn’t from the U.S. or Africa. The only one who came in on an African passport was the only one who died.


32 posted on 10/25/2014 6:19:05 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RichInOC

It’s why the term ‘leper colony’ has been around for centuries. It worked.

But can you tell that to self-regarding technocrats?


33 posted on 10/25/2014 6:20:00 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: SeekAndFind

You fight an epidemic by ISOLATING IT to the best of your ability AND fighting it where it IS.

ANYTHING LESS is INSANITY.


34 posted on 10/25/2014 6:24:38 PM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Doesn’t matter. Even if a passport isn’t from the countries in question, they are stamped if they’ve been there.

There’s no way that custom officials did not know that all of those folks had been in the hot zone.

Therefore there is no excuse.


35 posted on 10/25/2014 6:24:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: DoodleDawg
"You can ban people with passports from those countries but they aren't the only carriers."

A legal traveler visiting Sierra Leone would have a visa & entry/exit stamps on their passport no matter where they came from.
passport is simply shorthand for a review of that document for if, where, and when it had been stamped by an infected country.

In view of the potential pandemic and incubation period it is only reasonable to take any and all steps to limit the risk to our own citizens.

Which brings me to the current reports of a medical worker whining about being isolated by NJ upon return from W. Africa: seems she feels all righteous about tending to ignorant tribes elsewhere but has no concern for her own countrymen. (No, "tribe" isn't racist and "countrymen" isn't sexist. "Savages" would apply but invite misrepresentation and "countrypersons" sounds dumb.)

36 posted on 10/25/2014 6:26:48 PM PDT by norton
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To: Crazieman

I read that Nigeria stopped an outbreak of Ebola. How did they do it?


37 posted on 10/25/2014 6:27:46 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: SeekAndFind

The purpose of a travel ban is not absolute security, but to significantly reduce the threat. If people from these nations have a profound need to come to the US, as a minimum they must be willing to stay in a quarantine area for an entire month.

This is similar to the way things have been done for hundreds of years now. We regularly do it for animals, and while it is a hassle, it is far better than epidemic.


38 posted on 10/25/2014 6:29:01 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: joshua c

Opening the borders and letting the infected run all over Lagos. Duh.


39 posted on 10/25/2014 6:29:36 PM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Try taking a vacation to Israel with a US passport, then flying from there on to Saudi Arabia.

Visas and Entry/Exit stamps matter, too.


40 posted on 10/25/2014 6:29:57 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Mother of Epidemics- "Gang Green and the Government Staff Infection" - G. Morgan, Freedom Foundation)
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