It’s time to just separate religious marriage from the legal contract altogether. That’s what they do in France. Considering the fact that gay marriage has been forced down everyone’s throat (with other forms very likely to follow, such as polygamy) then just let Our Wonderful Government have the whole damn legal part. I really think the conservative position should be to separate the legal contract from religious marriage altogether.
IOW you want to surrender the whole issue to the Sodomists and other perverts?
Is that your position?
Sounds fine to me. The only reason they want it is because Churches refuse to do it. That would stop them. The government has no place in religious institutions.
What would be conservative about that?
The Puritans and Pilgrims didn’t have “religious marriage” at all, it is apparently a newer idea than that. Marriage between a man and a woman going back thousands of years has the been the bedrock of civilization.
Giving that up would not be “conservative”
It’s time to just separate religious marriage from the legal contract altogether.
That’s been my perspective for quite a while - even when the homosexuals were only fighting for “civil unions”. I’m a binary (black and white) thinker and it is how I’ve seen it all along.
This is something I’ve been proposing for a while, that churches need to “take back” marriage from the state. The way to do this is for Orthodox and conservative churches to reach a written agreement that they will only perform *and* recognize “sacramental” marriages. This agreement would have two parts.
1) Agreement on what is a Christian religious marriage, to include who can get married. And to keep and share records of married people amongst them.
and just as important,
2) Agreement to recognize in any way non-sacramental marriages, to “the great degree”. This means that when somebody goes to any of those churches claiming to be married, their marriage will be recognized only when certified. Even to the point of addressing them by their first names instead of Mr. and Mrs.
For their part, the churches must be indifferent to secular marriage, that it does not apply to their congregants, as long as they are sacramentally married.
This sounds quite logical. But, the "gays" will never go for it. They want to destroy marriage, not be a part of marriage. They want to destroy religion, because it says "no" to them. They could easily go to some "Church of What's Happenin Now" and get married with no problem; but, that's not the point. The point, is that you must be made to participate. You must be forced to celebrate. They already have the ability to just go to a Justice of the Peace, or whatever, to get married. They don't have to have a religious ceremony to be married; but, then they wouldn't have the fun of destroying other people's lives and businesses.
Actually, it's the liberal position "Separation of Church and State".
Throw it right back in their faces.