Putin's Coup

Politico ^ | 10/19/2014 | Ben Judah

[Agog]

he war in Ukraine is no longer only about Ukraine. The conflict has transformed Russia. This increasingly is what European leaders and diplomats believe: that Vladimir Putin and his security establishment have used the fog of war in Ukraine to shroud the final establishment of his brittle imperialist dictatorship in Moscow.

Among those who believe that this is happening, and that Europe will be facing down a more menacing Russia for a long time to come, is Radek Sikorski, who was Poland’s foreign minister from 2007 until September.

“I think psychologically the regime has been transformed by the annexation of Crimea,” Sikorski told Politico Magazine. “This was the moment that finally convinced all doubters and turned all heads. This was Napoleon after Austerlitz. This was Hitler after the fall of Paris. This was the moment that finally centralized everything into the hands of Vladimir Putin.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/vladimir-putins-coup-112025.html#ixzz3GhOcRWbV

[Agog]

Very interesting interview with former Polish prime minister Sikorski.

[Agog]

That should be, former foreign minister Sikorski.

[wetphoenix]

This intellectual pornography could make certain sense if not for a one little detail. This crisis in Ukraine was fomented by Obama to punish Russia for a Syrian embarrasspent of Muslim in Chief.

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I guess you forgot to switch to one of the “American conservative” accounts before writing this post.

Leaving anything else aside, Obama’s/EU’s reactions and initial Kiev's new gov approach were so impotent that obviously nothing was pre-planned here, at least not on the Russian side.

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at least not on the Russian side.

Except maybe on the Russian side.

[wetphoenix]

I can’t see any contradiction actually.

[wetphoenix]

~at least not on the Russian side.

Except maybe on the Russian side.~

Hmm. Wasn’t it your Freudian slip, Grzesiek?

It is quite typical for Obama’s administration to foment a thing and then get stunned figuring out how to cope with a result.

It is that makes ‘monkey with a hand grenade’ and Urkel moment.

As for an article above I heard Sikorski already denied he has given an interview at all.

[MeatshieldActual]

I heard that this Ukraine situation was all planned by Reptilian-Bankster Joos from New Guinea. Clearly you are wrong, my sources are top-level hush hush deep-cover stuff.

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“It is quite typical for Obama’s administration to foment a thing and then get stunned figuring out how to cope with a result.”

America is not Obama. If America was behind this crisis, there would be CIA involved and x other organizations with track record of carrying out more complicated operations. Saying that it was all planned by America/EU is nonsense, It took the west months to actually start doing anything.

“As for an article above I heard Sikorski already denied he has given an interview at all.”

He said he was misunderstood or something... whatever, Sikorski is a clown but description of the situation in this article (which include alleged quotes) is pretty much accurate.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/vladimir-putins-coup-112025.html

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“all planned by Reptilian-Bankster Joos from New Guinea.”

+ by Neo-cons/Monsato Nazis/Rothschilds/IMF/Soros etc. At least that's what all the hordes of Kremlin sponsored conspiracy nutjobs say, so It must be true...