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The case for voting Republicans, even those you think are Rinos
10/18/2014 | chrisnj

Posted on 10/18/2014 4:45:34 AM PDT by chrisnj

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To: woofie

So who exactly isn’t voting?


461 posted on 10/18/2014 9:59:59 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: cripplecreek

The idea of taking out a particular RINO or two is one thing.

Handing team nazi the ball and going to pout on the sidelines makes those people just as bad.


Precisely.

Think of our free nation as a beautiful young girl. Voting against socialism even while voting for weak follower statists is cutting off one of her arms. Staying home and thus supporting socialism is raping and then slowly killing her.


462 posted on 10/18/2014 10:01:58 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: woofie
From the first sentence of the article you linked:

The United States, like almost all English-speaking countries, has a two-party political system.

No we don't. The Constitution nowhere mentions or recognizes political parties. And our first president strictly warned us against letting party factionalism take hold.

To whatever extent parties have been superimposed upon our constitutional system, you will find the extent of the corruption.

463 posted on 10/18/2014 10:01:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Without airplane flights from Africa, the number of Ebola cases in America would be ZERO.)
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To: driftdiver
Agree. I don't know why most freepers think the average politician, republican or otherwise, will take any action that could endanger the position they worked so hard to achieve. As with anyone with a job, retention of one’s job is job #1.
464 posted on 10/18/2014 10:02:10 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Reddy

I believe Mitt is a lib. Do you?

Libs do what libs do. All of it wrong or evil. If you think he would be a severe conservative, you go right on believing whatever you like. I don’t believe a liberal would do anything that did not benefit him to do so. You dont KNOW squat that he would or would not have done. If it gets you through the day, pretend he sings opera.

But it’s speculation. Not reality.


465 posted on 10/18/2014 10:05:30 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: refermech

We can win by chipping away at the rock. It’s how the pyramids were built and we can do it too. There is no perfect candidate and never will be. Vote for the best candidate and then work to get your issue resolved.


Wisdom.

Freeper purists think that sitting on their hands will help create utopia. It won’t.


466 posted on 10/18/2014 10:07:10 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jacquerie

The dems took lots of’em. thats why they are running scared now. But they did it. Obamacare for example. Coal. All sorts of jobkillers they lined up for and did without hesitation. so yes. People do it all the time at the top of govt.


467 posted on 10/18/2014 10:07:47 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: chrisnj
<>You are forgetting that the Dems are in control and kill everything the Rep did.<>

You are forgetting the constitution provides the power of the purse to the House of Reps. Obamacare is universally despised. It has never polled a majority.

If the GOP can't defund the worst POC legislation in our history, it is a waste of time to think the pubbies will take on tougher issues.

468 posted on 10/18/2014 10:08:17 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Yaelle

Example please.


469 posted on 10/18/2014 10:08:18 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: chrisnj
Once they are in control, it is even harder for any Rep, principled or not, to fight them.

we can't even expect them to do anything for the conservative cause when they do have the majority.

Did you catch Rove last week telling us basically don't expect the GOP Congress to do anything when we win and are in the majority? What does that tell you? It tells me he is doing the dirty work for the party, lowering expectations, so that the individual senators don't get flack when they do nothing for their constituency .

additionally with that pronouncement he may make even more republican voters stay home.

rove is no good. I won't vote GOP at least until Rove is gone. I have no faith in these elections anymore.

470 posted on 10/18/2014 10:09:43 AM PDT by uncitizen (Buckle up! We're on the Facism Fast Track!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

No, at the time, the rats thought their actions would enhance their reelection.


471 posted on 10/18/2014 10:10:46 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: uncitizen

Stockholm syndrome. these people have identified with their captors. See also wife beating, white guilt and others.


472 posted on 10/18/2014 10:11:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Jacquerie

I dunno. there was plenty of debate back then. Some of it, sure. But Ocare was popular nowhere but inner cities and hard lib enclaves. thats why Nancy and Stenny had to do their dog and pony show.


473 posted on 10/18/2014 10:13:19 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Just in general: purists know they have to support tea party conservatives, but if one isn’t in the race, they feel that a Statist or egotistical Repub is the same as a dem and won’t vote.

As if that would make a tea party candidate grow on the spot for that race. It usually doesn’t. What usually happens then is that the Dem wins.

There is no way romney would have been as bad as Obama’s second term. And there are two years left of it.

Purists are not following the Hippocratic oath of First, Do No Harm.


474 posted on 10/18/2014 10:19:12 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: chrisnj
I think we all can agree that we're so farking off course in this country that the ballot box is only delaying the inevitable correction that only the cartridge box can remedy.

It's not like there's been a pendulum swinging left to right in this country for quite some time now——Only LEFT, since Wilson took office.

The Republicans now, look no different than the dems did thirty years ago. The Demoncrats are outright communists, socialists, anti-American thugs, liars and thieves.

I am a purist but I'm also a realist.....I have always voted against the COMMUNIST!! I would rather see some sanity while I'm still alive than the sh!t we have currently in the White Hut, Senate--Harry Reid, etc.

Yes I know, I'm kicking the can down the road.

475 posted on 10/18/2014 10:20:22 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (STERILIZE OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: chrisnj
While the Dem voters are behind their Dems 100% [...]

Name ONE thing, desired by the left, that has not been steadily advanced over the last two decades. Democrats SERVE their base.

This is not excuses for the Republicans' non-performance.

That is precisely what it is. Excuses.

What low-voltage back-east Republicans will never understand is that they will not win without the Conservatives. And Conservatives are in three factions. Each of those factions REQUIRE their primary principles to be upheld. Without ALL THREE factions, Republicans cannot win, or at least, cannot win decisively...

SO WHY it is so important to uphold the principles of Conservatism, is because without doing so, you will not win, because you will not get enough people to go to the polls, unless ALL the principles of Conservatism are being served. All else results in voter apathy or split votes as the various factions break apart to support various candidates

The 1%ers (me included) are right. Even if you don't believe in Conservatism, or lack faith in one or more of it's factions and their principles, Compromise is never going to lead to success. When ALL Conservative principles are being served, THEN, and ONLY THEN, will rise the Conservative juggernaut.

That, in a nutshell, is Reagan Conservatism. You should try it sometime.

476 posted on 10/18/2014 10:22:02 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
All it lacks is people with the integrity to follow through. That was how the founders designed the system afterall.

While no republic can long survive a corrupt citizenry, there is more to the Framers' design. They divided power, and not just horizontally between the three branches. The first and most important division was between the states and the government they created.

Our silly tack-on, the 17th Amendment is like adding a rumble seat to a Miata sports car. It can be done, but both screw up terrific designs.

477 posted on 10/18/2014 10:22:05 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Right, because those of us who want to crush the Democrats by any means necessary are just a bunch of RINOs.

I don’t think you guys understand the passion that our side feels.


478 posted on 10/18/2014 10:22:22 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yaelle

“Just in general: purists know they have to support tea party conservatives, but if one isn’t in the race, they feel that a Statist or egotistical Repub is the same as a dem and won’t vote.”

Must be an interesting fellow. Can you name one? Not in general. Because being one of the top ‘purists’ (so I have been repeatedly accused) I never met the dude.

So I call BS. Name them. Because we all vote. Just not for liberals.


479 posted on 10/18/2014 10:23:48 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

That should read in your humble opinion Mitt Romney is a liberal POS, and that opinion is not shared by very many. Just enough to give us the gift that keeps on giving.

So thank a bunch.


480 posted on 10/18/2014 10:23:50 AM PDT by wita
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