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CDC Personal Protective Equipment Procedure for Ebola
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ^ | CDC

Posted on 10/14/2014 5:52:48 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

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To: Slyfox

Can you link it to this post? Some will know how to forward it. I will.


21 posted on 10/14/2014 6:30:01 PM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: Carry_Okie
Reminds me of the Obamacare website.

Also no mention of the HHS department specifically created and extensively financed since 2004, to deal with emerging pandemics, dangerous emerging worldwide health threats, and specifically including Ebola as the reason for it's existance.

Paging Dr. Nicole Lurie....

22 posted on 10/14/2014 6:31:00 PM PDT by sarasmom (The Benghazi Brief – (Extortion 17 also partially explained))
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To: Slyfox

Slyfox, can you link it to this post so we all can see it?


23 posted on 10/14/2014 6:31:59 PM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: robert14

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/pdf/ppe-poster.pdf


24 posted on 10/14/2014 6:33:04 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: null and void; Smokin' Joe

Just in case you missed this.


25 posted on 10/14/2014 6:36:16 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Red in Blue PA
I have to wonder if he has ever been around a patient who has projectile vomiting and who starts swinging at you, or thrashing around, or throwing things whilst covered in vomit(or worse).

We used to plan and prepare for the worst. Now these poor nurses who are on the front lines of caring for these patients can't even count on the CDC to insist that they have the proper protective gear. I can't imagine not having a hood/face shield combo on my head at least when caring for someone with that much infectious fluid spewing from them.

This is a direct result of having nihilistic,godless secular humanists in control. They couldn't care less about any lives other than their own. We are surplus. The sooner we die, the better off Gaia will be.

Mrs. AV

26 posted on 10/14/2014 6:40:13 PM PDT by Atomic Vomit (http://www.cafepress.com/aroostookbeauty/358829)
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To: Carry_Okie; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

27 posted on 10/14/2014 6:40:37 PM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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To: Boundless

Maybe we should just try to hibernate...


28 posted on 10/14/2014 6:41:51 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Slyfox

Megan actually showed it during her interview with stupid CDC director. I believe no one has had time to realize what they are looking at. A paper mouth/nose mask and a cotton gown. No head/eye/neck protection or feet protection. Are shorts ok? Short sleeves? What a joke.


29 posted on 10/14/2014 6:42:31 PM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: robert14
Friedan is just plain STUPID!

These idiots are looking at ebola simply as a pathogen. They're not thinking of cleaning up bloody diarrhea or vomit all over the floor. They don't do that kind of thing.

When I recommended coating the PPE in grease and telling the workers to doff it as a training procedure, I wasn't kidding. The dirtiest stinkiest axle grease they can find. If it doesn't have the "ick factor" then it isn't training. The housekeepers should be able to do it with confidence and speed or they don't have a procedure.

30 posted on 10/14/2014 6:50:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Every health care worker in a hospital must rely on the protective equipment provided by the hospital or facility for whom he/she works.

Overlooked in every discussion so far has been the potential conflict of interest which exists within that framework of operation for the workers.

Hospital Administrators and their staffs focus on the bottom line, protecting the big-name hospital chain, not the health and wellbeing of the hospital employee.

When a health care worker gets sick, the Administration goes about the business of protecting the organization's bottom line, not the employment rights of the employee who may have sacrificed their own safety in their dedication to duty and helping the sick for whom they care.

Perhaps Friedan's initial attempt to seem to indicate that the employee herself may have been derelict was, in fact, an attempt to deflect attention from both government and hospital officials from potential lawsuits for negligence and blame.

Big and powerful hospital chains may be more closely aligned with the interest of a powerful government than with that of either the patients or employees who must rely on their protocols, the protective equipment they acquire and maintain, and the instruction and support they may or may not provide for the benefit of patients and employees alike.

Someone must focus on this real fact as examination of the facts underlying such investigations go forward.

31 posted on 10/14/2014 6:50:42 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: robert14

I just emailed Drudge and Rush. Hope they read it.


32 posted on 10/14/2014 6:51:13 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Atomic Vomit

The thing that is really going to be bad about this is that pretty soon, the nurses who are older and/or who can afford to bow out of the workplace(a large part of the nursing workforce are females over 40)are going to do it. If we cannot depend on the chief gov’t public health/infectious disease entity to support us safety-wise, then it’s all over for a lot of us. Most hospitals will not voluntarily furnish nursing staff with hazmat suits that cost thousands of dollars each(like the CDC has when they work with miniscule amounts of the virus). That would require being forced to by the CDC, which evidently isn’t happening.

I bet we’re shipping them to Africa, though.

Mrs. AV


33 posted on 10/14/2014 6:51:22 PM PDT by Atomic Vomit (http://www.cafepress.com/aroostookbeauty/358829)
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To: sarasmom
Paging Dr. Nicole Lurie....

No kidding. The arrogance of these people is astonishing.

34 posted on 10/14/2014 6:51:36 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: robert14
"Friedan is just plain STUPID! I cannot believe what he told Megan."

I don't think Friedan is actually stupid, but he seems to have forgotten everything he learned after he graduated from Oberlin. It's difficult to believe that he's an ivy-trained infectious disease specialist with an MPH.

(Or maybe wishful thinking and Political Correctness trumps science today.)

Some skin exposed -- but masks, eye covering, double gloves, double gowns, scrubs, hair covering, and booties were formal infectious disease attire thirty years ago.

If it is correct that Ebola can remain infectious on surfaces for a period of time, reportedly between 5 and 23 days -- of course you'd want to cover everything!

35 posted on 10/14/2014 6:52:34 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: robert14

The procedure does show long sleeve cotton gown and regular pants. Also a face shield. So, in summary, the folks taking out the trash and cleaning the apartment are wearing full yellow, airtight, hazmat space suits and are being washed down with bleach before they remove the suits, while the medical personnel, in direct contact with the patients body fluids, are wearing cotton gowns, paper masks, and tennis shoes. Megan pressed him on no head cover or protective shows and stupid CDC director said he stood by the procedures.


36 posted on 10/14/2014 6:53:35 PM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: loveliberty2
Overlooked in every discussion so far has been the potential conflict of interest which exists within that framework of operation for the workers.

If I were a manufacturer of PPE (DuPont, 3M, etc.), I would be setting up a subsidiary right now to do training on how to use my products. I would not sell that equipment to anyone who had not passed that training. I wouldn't want the liability of selling it otherwise.

37 posted on 10/14/2014 6:54:21 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Frieden was just on Megan Kelly and claimed that you do not need to cover your hair when treating ebola.

Seriously? Is he insane?
38 posted on 10/14/2014 6:55:37 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Carry_Okie
This page is of particular interest: http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/patient-management-us-hospitals.html

It explains why doctors in Africa use full suits and we don't. Sounds like they're doubling down and refusing to budge.

39 posted on 10/14/2014 6:59:13 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Girlene

He is insane, afraid of losing his job, or being black mailed by Obama.


40 posted on 10/14/2014 6:59:21 PM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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