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CDC chief on second Ebola case: There was a breach in protocol
CBS News ^ | October 11, 2014 | REBECCA KAPLAN

Posted on 10/12/2014 7:06:41 AM PDT by maggief

The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said there was "clearly" a breach in protocol that led to a Texas health care worker contracting Ebola after treating a Liberian man who later died from the virus, although authorities do not yet know what that breach was.

"We're deeply concerned about this new development," Dr. Thomas Frieden said in an interview on CBS' "Face the Nation" Sunday. "I think the fact that we don't know of a breach in protocol is concerning because clearly there was a breach in protocol. We have the ability to prevent the spread of Ebola by caring safely for patients."

"The fact is that the individual who became ill was, as per protocol, self monitoring. Immediately when they developed symptoms they isolated themselves, they were promptly isolated at the hospital so that any further spread from that individual was stopped," Frieden added.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: dallas; ebola; ebolapimps; harmfulpolicy; nationalsecurity; obola; octobersurprise; openborders; protocol; texas
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To: GOPJ

Thanks. I had to take a phone call before the ending of the session.

Two things came up in what I did see and hear.

1. There may be a lot more cases of Ebola or possibly infected people.

2. I would love to play poker with the left wing so called Judge, the friend of OboZo. Every time he lied, his eye lids went into a blinking speed up.


181 posted on 10/12/2014 10:04:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I, Barrack E Obolabama support the left wing war on Ebola. Fox News and Republicans will fight me.)
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To: kcat
Could the nurse have handeled blood and the others just contact with bodily fluids?

The nurse handled the patient (and fluids) at a later stage with more virus. Also nurses job is sometimes to get messy (e.g. cleaning fluids off the patient). From what I can tell the family, primarily the "stepdaughter" Youngor Jallah disinfected after handling the patient. With no protection and some care that might be less risky than getting covered in fluids and expecting the suit to save you.

The biggest difference is the stage of disease with more bleeding and more viruses.

182 posted on 10/12/2014 10:08:25 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The separate facilities MUST be bio safety Level 4. There are very few such in the US and worldwide. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level

They are kidding themselves with gowns, masks, goggles, face shields, etc.

As you say, we should have started a crash program to build lots of BSL-4 quarantine / rehab centers when it began spiraling out of control in Africa.

What happens when all of our hospitals are contaminated? Read The Hot Zone about how the Reston Monkey House was thoroughly decontaminated and sterilized, yet the new research monkeys brought in all got the SHF virus and died (relative of Ebola).


183 posted on 10/12/2014 10:10:27 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: penelopesire; maggief

From the Dept of Laugh or Cry via Twitchy comes McCain’s solution- he wants an.....

EBOLA CZAR! !!!

Seriously- that’s his solution.


184 posted on 10/12/2014 10:11:05 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: maggief
....so employees tend to prefer directors appointed by Democratic presidents.

Good God. Did I really read that? We are so screwed.

185 posted on 10/12/2014 10:14:16 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SE Mom

Pathetic!

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-because-of-the-nra-20141012-column.html

Prompted by Crowley, McCain complained, “We were told there would never be a case of Ebola in the United States and obviously that’s not correct.” He said, “There has to be some kind of czar” to manage the disease in the U.S. “I’d like to know who’s in charge, among other things.”


186 posted on 10/12/2014 10:14:38 AM PDT by maggief
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To: SE Mom

So unfortunately predictable. Gads! Oh I am sure we will have a Ebola czar soon. Some Dr. Kevorkian or Dr. Mengele straight out of central casting. God help us.


187 posted on 10/12/2014 10:35:12 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

Watching Frieden on TV, I was quite sure he was on drugs. My guess would be some sort of upper-downer cocktail. An upper to keep his eyes open, a downer to keep him from running out of the room and jumping into his safe suit.


188 posted on 10/12/2014 10:57:13 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: SE Mom
From what I can gather she stayed home from work for last two days - maybe Wednesday/Thursday? ..began low-grade fever Friday and test came back last night positive.

I wonder how accurate the statement, "You can't spread the disease until you get a fever" is in reality. If accurate why are the contacting the people she had contact with before the two day timeline?

189 posted on 10/12/2014 11:16:50 AM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: SnuffaBolshevik; Dallas59
“They” might want you to add voting booths to your list."

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Guess they will have to take our temperatures before we vote./s

What happened to ebola infected person being safe to sit next to on the bus....

Riding the bus might be a 'breach of protocol I would think./c

190 posted on 10/12/2014 11:40:31 AM PDT by hummingbird (US = Koyaanisqatsi.)
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To: fruser1; Texas Eagle
“Can’t have that. There’s an election coming up”

Maybe this is a way to keep Texans from coming out to the polls.

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Riding an ebola-infected bus to go vote would seem to be two breaches in protocol, I would think./s

191 posted on 10/12/2014 11:43:04 AM PDT by hummingbird (US = Koyaanisqatsi.)
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To: Brother Cracker
Infected blood on that fella’s hands........
192 posted on 10/12/2014 11:44:00 AM PDT by hummingbird (US = Koyaanisqatsi.)
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To: dragnet2

Frieden’s doesn’t seem concerned with protecting American citizens. I think he’s deluded himself into thinking he’s a ‘citizen of the world’... If we get another 2,000 cases of ebola over here it’ll shut down most medical care for other illness. Aside from breaking a rather fragile medical system. Good list - worth repeating:

Blame some unknown breach,

Blame the protocols,

Blame the moon suits,

Blame decontamination methods, the training, lack of education and on and on and on and on...

Never mind isolating these nasty diseases in their countries of origin....

That makes too much GD sense...

Fly these infected and exposed all over the planet...

That’s the ticket!

As the audience of fools applaud...


193 posted on 10/12/2014 11:46:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there has been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: Veto!

Something is wrong with him! That’s for sure. Probably multiple things spiritually and psychologically.


194 posted on 10/12/2014 11:48:31 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Grampa Dave
When Frieden was on Meet the Press he would often shake his head “no” when he was talking... I think he's self censoring. Play poker with both of 'em... tells and telling wins.
195 posted on 10/12/2014 11:52:17 AM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there has been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: super7man; jjotto
“Since the data do not match our predictions, the data must be wrong.”

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Can't wait to use that on my boss when something I did wrong hits the quarterly fan....

196 posted on 10/12/2014 11:53:11 AM PDT by hummingbird (US = Koyaanisqatsi.)
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To: maggief
"“This is understandably disturbing news for the patient, the patient’s family and colleagues and the greater Dallas community,” the statement said.""

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How about just everybody - don't stop at Dallas, jackass - take any air flight to/from just about anywhere......

197 posted on 10/12/2014 12:02:39 PM PDT by hummingbird (US = Koyaanisqatsi.)
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To: maggief

Varga’s official statement:

http://bigmedicine.ca/wordpress/2014/10/texas-statement-from-dr-dan-varga-chief-clinical-officer-texas-health-presbyterian-hospital-dallas-re-ebola/#sthash.6BJitrXh.RHT7sUcO.dpbs

Interesting...sounds like we now have ‘new’ CDC guidelines. CDC is the one dropping the ball here.


198 posted on 10/12/2014 12:17:34 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: dragnet2

We’re the Government & we’re here to help.

O.
M.
G.


199 posted on 10/12/2014 12:23:14 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: penelopesire

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/12/ABC-Chief-Medical-Expert-CDC-Wrong-All-US-Hospitals-Cant-Treat-Ebola-Safely

ABC CHIEF MEDICAL EDITOR: CDC WRONG, ALL US HOSPITALS CAN’T TREAT EBOLA SAFELY

AUSTIN, Texas — Dr. Richard Besser, the chief health and medical editor for ABC News, told WFAA-Dallas on Sunday that he found the second Texas Ebola case “very concerning.” As reported by Breitbart Texas, the latest patient diagnosed with Ebola is a female nurse at the Texas Presbyterian Hospital who treated Thomas Eric Duncan before he died from the disease. Besser, having recently returned to the United States after visiting Ebola-stricken areas of Liberia, expressed sharp disagreement with the protocols being followed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), dissatisfied with their admission that they needed to adopt enhanced protocols in a press conference Sunday.

Besser told WFAA that he had been anticipating the news of a second Ebola case. “I don’t find it surprising, but I find it very concerning,” he said, continuing that it was necessary for health authorities to cast “a very wide net” to search for anyone who may have had even the most incidental contact with either Duncan or the nurse. The difficulty in containing the spread of the disease, according to Besser, is that it takes special training and experience to follow the isolation protocols and use the protective gear properly.

“The idea that this could be done by any American hospital that has an isolation room and can be done safely, I was skeptical about that,” said Besser, in a clear departure from recent statements by the CDC that any American hospital can safely care for Ebola patients. Besser mentioned the highly specialized biocontainment equipment and advanced training available at at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, where Fort Worth doctor Kent Brantly was successfully treated for Ebola exposure, and the Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, where an NBC photographer is currently getting treatment.

Besser agreed with Dr. Tom Frieden, the CDC head, who had said that the new Ebola case was caused by a “breach in protocol.” “You cannot get sick without a breach in protocol, [however] you can’t implement that protocol without training and practice. It’s very difficult to take off the protective gear in such a manner that you don’t potentially contaminate yourself.” Besser cited this new Dallas case and the case of a nurse in Spain who had contracted Ebola from a patient, and the fact that health care workers at the Emory and Nebraska facilities had not gotten sick, as illustrative of the vital difference that the training can make.

(snip)


200 posted on 10/12/2014 12:35:37 PM PDT by maggief
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