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Another Ebola Risk: It Eats Logic
Townhall.com ^ | October 10, 2014 | Mark Davis

Posted on 10/11/2014 4:06:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Jack Hydrazine

Don’t forget the 1st WTC bombing in 1993 , 9/11/01, and what was supposed to be the NYC subway bombing which was supposed to take place in 2007 then 2008 then 2009, were all planned as attacks against the economy.

I’ve got zero doubts left there is a bio terrorist attack being planned to trigger the collapse.


41 posted on 10/11/2014 7:47:15 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Kaslin; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

42 posted on 10/11/2014 7:54:46 AM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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To: Kaslin

Shill. No logic to his statements.


43 posted on 10/11/2014 8:05:32 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: MrEdd
The flue virus of 1918 was transmitted by passenger pigeons as one of the vectors.

Nice theory except the last passenger pigeon died in 1914.

44 posted on 10/11/2014 8:16:50 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: ICCtheWay

You forgive him, I don’t. Sorry, I am not on the side of military worship and don’t buy the line that I have to listen to someone that “served their Country”. That’s weak minded.

If a man or woman serves their Country in the military admirably, I respect that greatly. But when you support and advocate decisions or actions that have a strong chance of KILLING or HARMING my family, then you are just part of the problem; the many serious problems we have here today.

So because he has become attached to West Africans, they can come here freely and “possibly” spread a horrific disease. BS!

Don’t care what your service record is, you are a dangerous character no matter where your heart lies.

Same with a military man who served admirably of Mexican descent who’s later agenda is to stop border control and deportations because it’s his people effected and it is racist. Again, sorry pal, I don’t want third world diseases, tax burden, crime increases and HEAD CHOPPING Cartel influences inside our Country. All may destroy my family and if you support it, you are now my enemy.

I have heard many people on the supposed Right who say they like to read the NYT, or watch MSNBC/CNN to see what the other side is saying. I think that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

How many times does one have to hear that R’s and Conservatives/Tea Party members are racist, ignorant, homophobic and laughable. That’s all you get.

The best education on what I think this Country is up against is to read info posted and threads posted on supposed conservative websites. There is your education.

I learned what high hurdles we are up against when I read the thoughts of supposed conservatives, military members, Law enforcement and supposed Christians.

This interview should be taken seriously because it shows the mindset we will be up against from even decent people. Other major topics where you really saw how things have changed were the acceptance of open gays in the mil. At first I was shocked how many mil members were perfectly fine with this as long as they “pulled their weight”. That short sighted thinking surprised me at first but now I realize that things have fundamentally changed in the US, probably for good.

Same thing when I read the initial venom directed at George Zimmerman by the “Right” when the story first broke due to the Community Organizers dredging up the shooting. At first I was disgusted how many gun owning libertarians and conservatives threw George under the bus believing all the MSM lies. Some people, no matter how they vote, will never get it.

The Bundy Land issue was another topic that I learned from too.

Fragmented.


45 posted on 10/11/2014 8:19:26 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: Kaslin
CDC: 150 People Enter U.S. Per Day from Ebola-Stricken Countries--or 4,500 Per Month

...One hundred-fifty passengers a day from West Africa works out to more than a thousand a week (1,050), 4,500 a month, and 54,750 a year.

Given the 21-day incubation period for Ebola and the 150 people coming in each day, that means that at any given time there could be 21 x 150 people in the U.S. who could be asymptomatically incubating Ebola, and who are free to wander around the country

46 posted on 10/11/2014 8:53:07 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: smokingfrog
In 1918, you didn’t have jet aircraft that could transport hundreds of people from one side of the earth to the other in a matter of hours.

Yet the influenza managed to make its way around the world in several waves, killing 25-50 million people.

If Ebola spread like influenza, we would be in the midst of a terrible pandemic right now, comparable to the plagues that wiped out Europe in the middle ages. But Ebola only spreads through contact, not through aerosols--meaning that it can be controlled by controlling behavior. And people *have* been changing behavior to avoid Ebola.

It would be silly to stop all travel from the affected countries. Within those countries, the chance that anyone will have Ebola is somewhere around 0.02%, or 1 in 4500. It's actually less, because that calculation is based on total case count minus the dead, not current number of active cases, which is much lower.

The other problems that could arise from trying to isolate those countries could cause a huge loss of life that dwarfs anything Ebola might cause.

47 posted on 10/11/2014 9:20:01 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

so using those numbers of 1 in 4500 means that we will have one infected person in a month.. and a month from now that number will have quadrupled as the spread is doubling about every two weeks.

So we will have a new case about every week... and then two months from now it will have quadrupled again to about 4 a week..


48 posted on 10/11/2014 10:23:49 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: freespirit2012

Keep in mind that I calculated the 1 in 4500 probability on the basis of all cases that have not died, from the beginning of the outbreak in December. Since that number includes everyone who recovered, as well as the currently ill, the probability is a lot lower than what I calculated.

I would really like to see a current, rather than cumulative, case count. Then I could do much better calculations.

I think if I did that calculation on the number of people who were exposed, but not yet showing symptoms—those who are able to travel, in other words—estimated on the weekly case count—the number would be at least ten-fold less than my rough calculation.

We’ve had imported cases of hemorrhagic fevers before, and not one has ever led to a secondary case.


49 posted on 10/11/2014 10:56:35 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

but those numbers also don’t include the un-reported cases either.. which is many fold higher than the reported cases..


50 posted on 10/11/2014 11:28:33 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: exDemMom

unless you estimated the unreported cases in your calculation..


51 posted on 10/11/2014 11:29:36 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: Kaslin

IMHO, there are reasons behind these types of behaviors.

Maybe we all have already been infected with something, and ebola is being made into the scapegoat to explain when a mass pandemic is triggered. It would nicely explain the repetitive levels of seemingly intentional incompetence being promoted around this disease, when the most competent healthcare professionals still fear the disease.


52 posted on 10/11/2014 12:44:27 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: xzins

It would be racist to prevent Africans from entering America because of the African in the White Hut...


53 posted on 10/11/2014 12:52:35 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn

Drudge had something yesterday about the race industry deciding that saying “Obola” is racist. LOL.

Strikes me as a policy driven play on words. His open borders policy has increased the risk of ebola to our citizens and has earned him the name “obola”.

Another play on words we saw in recent history was: “stay out’n da bushes”


54 posted on 10/11/2014 12:55:20 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Yep


55 posted on 10/11/2014 1:08:44 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: mosesdapoet
Under present circumstances we should be circumspective of the assistance we offer. Certainly sending combat units not equipted with the knowledge, training, or backgound to do what is needed. Placing them in harms way in an area where the likelyhood of contracting a deadly disease is pre eminent simply because it suits political symbolism is madness.

It's being done deliberately with the goal of depopulation.

56 posted on 10/11/2014 1:59:15 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: roofgoat

Why are you preaching at me - did you read my post? Did you somehow think I agreed with this man after what I wrote? Surely not?

You should cool off a bit... Just because I give him a smidgen of a break for his military service - is no justification for you jumping on me as if I am the problem.

We agree on the substance - the guy is WRONG... OKAY?

IN NO WAY DID I EXCUSE HIM FOR HIS WRONG POSITION by virtue of his military service... GET IT?

I even give John McCain a break for a few milliseconds - then I am back to despising the man.

Please read my post again... okay...

And I have no idea of what else you are talking about with the Hispanic guy ... GET GRIP fella..


57 posted on 10/12/2014 1:13:10 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: roofgoat

Here is one of SEVERAL replies I made about the Green Beret...
I guess you missed them...

Sorry - I was a Green Beret too... but this guy is up a tree.

You don’t ban flights - you shut down issuing Visas... discussing of banning flights is a straw man argument... It is not needed... The average West African has absolutely no pressing need to visit American.. Ninety Percent of them just go to visit relatives and some would go to get treatment for Ebola... No one is talking about banning flights TO West African and cutting off flights from there is NOT THE POINT.. There are not thousands of West Africans doing business deals in the states that will suffer if they are not allowed visit - hogwash... We are not talking about walling off in 1918 technology - we are talking about 2014 where a person’s entire travel history is in his/her passport - VISA —— Where they have been before - there stamps in and out of Europe to take flights to America ... This guys is not looking at the FACTS is equating a 1918 experience with technology of the time to 2014 ... Good GRIEF!!!


58 posted on 10/12/2014 1:24:02 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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