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To: HamiltonJay

The problem with these kinds of idiots is that they aren’t satisfied with more humane treatment of farm animals - they believe that “meat is murder” and want it ended altogether. That’s not a program I’ll be signing up for anytime soon. I have reservations about the way livestock (chickens and pigs, particularly) are treated, enough to make me reconsider where my meat comes from and how much of it I want to eat - but not enough to make me believe that eating meat is inherently immoral.


69 posted on 10/07/2014 10:37:58 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: -YYZ-

I’m not arguing that meat should be off the menu, and have no place for those who wish to force no meat onto others. I enjoy meat, but like you I am not in denial about the inhumanity that exist in the modern factory farming practices that raise it.

Industrialization is incredibly efficient, but it can equally heartless and inhumane.

I think one of the problem with our nation today, is that like it or not, the extremes of both ends, work their best to create blindness for the rest of the population.

Like, here for example, if I posted a video showing the inhumane treatment that factory chickens endure in their brief lives on this planet, there is no doubt someone would show up calling me a communist, or anti-business or a bleeding heart.... and ignoring the benefits it has provided. Equally if I went to DU and posted a video explaining how industrial farming has managed to drive down prices, help feed far more people and provided a net benefit, I’d be screamed at for being capitalist swine and supporting of cruelty to animals etc etc etc.

The reality is, on most issues, both sides, generally do have valid points and concerns, but instead of focusing on those real issues, the extremes on both ends keep the rest distracted from the things we could probably work together on to resolve, by latching onto insanely radical examples of the others side and using those as reasons to dismiss all arguments of the other.

Our political system right now, because the people are largely being so blinded, doesn’t lead, and work in any way to come up with viable reasonable solutions to problems, because anyone working with the other side on any issue, is portrayed by the radicals as enemy number one. Its insanity right now. So, rather than risk the wrath of the radicals, often on their own side, they just take publicly contrarian views of their opposition.

The reality is, ever family has that crazy uncle, who is often a bit to loud and for the most part is let be, but every so often the patriarch of the family, puts him back in his place to keep him in line. We all love that crazy uncle, but we would never let them run the show, and that seems to be the folks influencing most things right now, there doesn’t seem to be any leadership, telling them ENOUGH, sit down and shut up, we are going to deal with the reality of this.


74 posted on 10/08/2014 6:17:44 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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