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New Technology has Destroyed the Myth of Peak Oil
Townhall.com ^ | October 6, 2014 | Thomas Miller

Posted on 10/06/2014 1:30:37 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: zeestephen
It's important to understand that fracking is much more expensive than traditional drilling.

It is important to understand that hydraulic fracturing is not drilling. Hdrofrac is done on traditional wells and tight formations like shale.

A fracked well has a very short productive life, often one year or less.

False.

A well in a shale formation with horizontal lateral and multi-stage hydrofrac tends to have a quick drop off. But I have not seen a reference to any being shut down or not economic after one year, unless it was a poor well to begin with.

Typical well in the Bakken for example looks like:

Source for Graph:
North Dakota Department of Mineral Resources
https://www.dmr.nd.gov/oilgas/presentations/WBPC2011Activity.pdf

They are not shutting down wells that "only" make a $1,000 a day of product. There are plenty of decades-old stripper wells producing less than 10 barrels a day left in production; they make up nearly a quarter of our oil production oustide the shale fields.

Stripper Well Facts
http://nswa.us/custom/showpage.php?id=25

Also, fracking is labor intensive for the entire well life.

Completely false.

21 posted on 10/06/2014 2:28:12 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: F15Eagle

I read about it in National Geographic.


22 posted on 10/06/2014 2:29:09 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: HerrBlucher

” vaguely remember a show narrated by Walter Cronkite in the 70s that claimed that insects would soon take over the world.”

I, for one, welcome our new (you know the rest).


23 posted on 10/06/2014 2:34:14 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Kaslin

For those who want to see a video showing how horizontal drilling and fracking is done, Northern Gas and Oil has a great one. It’s 6 minutes.

It includes a visual piece on how fresh water aquifers are protected from contamination.

http://www.northernoil.com/drilling-video


24 posted on 10/06/2014 2:57:03 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: thackney
I notice you forgot to attack the accuracy of my break even numbers.

What was the average break even for fracking in 2013?

Higher than a un-fracked well?

Why?

Re: Fracking is not drilling.

I'm writing for a general audience, not engineers.

Are you claiming that fracking does not involve pipes and drilling equipment?

Are you claiming that no new wells are sunk with the exclusive intention of fracking from the first day?

Re: Stripper wells

They pump less than 900,000 barrels a day.

That's not a technology that will “Destroy the Myth of Peak Oil.”

And you want me to explain this to a general audience, or else you will assault my comment?

Re: Fracking is labor intensive.

So, when they have to frack down the entire length of a horizontal well, that requires the same amount of labor as an un-fracked well?

Lighten up, Thack.

I'm a money and numbers guy.

I'm trying to explain to a general audience why the USA will NEVER become the next Saudi Arabia, no matter how much hydrocarbon we pull out of the ground.

26 posted on 10/06/2014 4:28:22 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: vpintheak

Don’t know exactly how much the US produces domestic alley now, but we need to ask Thackney for that information....... However I would not be surprised that we are close to the highest levels of domestic production since the late 60’s and the 1980’s .
Thackney correct me if I am wrong but oil production reached it peak domestically in the late 60’s in 1970 and then declined then in the 1980’s it went back up for a short period.
The future looks bright and yes with confidence that domestic oil production will surpass what we have seen in the past and we will see all time highs in domestic oil production.
Thackney I do would make a very optimistic prediction that technology will increase production and make it profitable oil companies to produce it even if the price falls short of what it is now at $90 or below.


27 posted on 10/06/2014 4:33:27 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Kaslin

Peak oil is a scientific fact, like Global warming and the greatness of Karl rove.


28 posted on 10/06/2014 4:37:09 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (When Amnesty was granted 30 years ago, they promised to close the borders and enforce the law)
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To: zeestephen
What was the average break even for fracking in 2013?

Higher than a un-fracked well?

You continue to confuse the terms. You are ignoring that hydrofrac is used on traditional type wells. Writing garbage like that just adds to the confusion.

Hydrofrac is not just used on these expensive shale wells. It is used in traditional wells as well. It has been used on them for decades. About 90% of ALL oil wells will be hydrofrac'd sometime in their lifetime, not just our new shale wells with massive horizontal laterals.

I'm writing for a general audience, not engineers.

You are confusing the general audience with false and misleading information.

Are you claiming that fracking does not involve pipes and drilling equipment?

Hydrofrac'ng is done after the drilling rig has left the well.

So, when they have to frack down the entire length of a horizontal well, that requires the same amount of labor as an un-fracked well?

Previously you spoke of the entire life of the well. There isn't a difference after the completion including hydrofrac is done.

become the next Saudi Arabia

Saudi has started hydrofrac'ng as well.

29 posted on 10/06/2014 5:54:09 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Kaslin

It isn’t just hydraulic fracturing, that has been around for a while. It is the combination of horizontal drilling, hydraulic fracturing, and unconventional reservoirs which have made this boom happen.—oh, and the vision to try something that ‘can’t be done’.


30 posted on 10/07/2014 12:56:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: HerrBlucher

The libs never get tired of trying to fulfill their psychotic dreams of being the honchos of the world, no matter what.

IMHO


31 posted on 10/07/2014 4:58:50 AM PDT by ripley
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To: MrB
There is always a limit on the amount of oil that we can extract from the earth...

with present technology, at present prices...

Of course, those two conditions are not fixed.

GMTA - exactly my first thoughts upon reading the article. I'm surprised it took 11 posts to get this basic economic and free market truth in the forum.

32 posted on 10/07/2014 5:25:21 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: thackney

I would take that well cycle in an heart beat. Saw the first rig start drilling in Nevada last week. Exciting moment.


33 posted on 10/07/2014 5:30:54 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Uncle Miltie

+1.


34 posted on 10/07/2014 5:33:00 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: thackney
I saw some numbers on CNBC today that might interest you.

They interviewed a couple energy economists concerning the price collapse in WTI.

The average break even in the Bakken field is $58 per barrel, just shy of the $60 number I quoted in my comments.

The average break even for new wells in the Bakken is $78 per barrel, and the new wells are 90% depleted within two years, just one year longer than the number I quoted in my comments.

I went back and re-read all my comments.

The only serious mistakes I see:

(1) I failed to specify shale drilling.

(2) I thought horizontal wells were fracked in segments, then the initial oil surge was pumped out, then they fracked the next segment.

35 posted on 10/11/2014 2:27:15 AM PDT by zeestephen
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