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To: EternalVigilance; Patton@Bastogne; TomGuy
I would be happy if Roe v Wade was overturned. That would be good enough for me because it would then place in the hands of the people the authority to pursue what morality does and doesn't become punishable by government. I would also be okay with Federal prohibition of abortion as well.

I am no purist -- for all his flaws, and they are many, had Gingrich won the presidential primary in 2012, I'd have voted for him with hope for positive change. Like Dubya he'd probably have woefully disappointed me, but then again, I read his entire web site that was substantial in real vision and information. TomGuy is correct, however, when he notes in post #4 above that here, Gingrich is speaking in pretty general terms. Lots of platitudes, very little meat. UNLIKE his campaign page in 2012, I hasten to add.

I voted for Eternal Vigilance in 2012. I will vote third party again in 2016 if the Republican party does what I fully expect it to do, and manipulates the nomination of a Democrat Republican -- a member of the Republican party who is philosophically on board with the Democrats in assigning enforcement roles to government that are so wrong as health care, forced cooperation with open homosexuality, and on-demand subsidized abortion.

Whether they admit it or not, every person who voted for Romney voted FOR the same things the Democrats want, morally, socially, and fiscally.

The only thing that counts is what you vote FOR.

35 posted on 10/04/2014 11:42:57 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Roe vs. Wade was a court opinion, in a particular case. An illogical, stupid, immoral, unconstitutional, and therefore unlawful, opinion. So, there’s nothing to be “overturned.” Only laws can be overturned. We the People, via our Constitution, only gave one department of government lawmaking ability, and even that authority has limits.

This is not a nitpick, my friend. It’s fundamental, though sadly forgotten by most these days.

Roe should be ignored, in the same way Dred Scott vs. Sanford, or Nazi “laws,” are ignored.

All unjust or unconstitutional laws or court opinions are null and void.

Something I wrote on this subject a couple years back:


The practice of human abortion violates every single clause of the stated purposes of the United States Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, and its explicit, imperative requirements. It is the worst sort of lawless rebellion against the laws of nature and of nature’s God.

The stated purposes of the Constitution of the United States, the Supreme Law of the Land:

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The idea that it is the law of the land is the biggest, most destructive lie ever told in America.

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its first purpose the formation of a more perfect Union. The practice of human abortion destroys the most fundamental familial bonds that unite humanity, the natural ties between a mother and her child, destroys the unity of families and communities, and is well on its way to destroying the Union we call America.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its purpose the establishment of Justice. There can be no greater physical injustice committed towards any innocent person than to murder them.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its purpose the insuring of domestic Tranquility. The practice of human abortion is the cruelest violence that could possibly be committed against women, children, and their families. It has, in fact, filled our land with violence, burdening the national conscience with guilt for the shed blood of countless tens of millions of innocent little boys and girls.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its purpose the provision of the common Defense. That is, by definition, the defense of ALL persons in America. The practice of human abortion is the destruction of the child AND the destruction of Equality.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its purpose the promotion of the general Welfare. That is, by definition, the welfare, or well-being, of ALL persons in America. Again, the practice of human abortion is the destruction of the child AND the destruction of Equality.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its purpose the securing of the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. The practice of human abortion has already obliterated nearly an entire generation, depriving each individual victim of any possible chance to enjoy any of the Blessings of Liberty, and, by erasing entire bloodlines, it is obliterating Posterity itself.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land, in the Fifth Amendment, explicitly and imperatively forbids the killing of any innocent person, the willful destruction of any person who has not been charged, tried, and convicted of a capital offense. Abortion is the grossest violation of Due Process imaginable.

“No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law.” — The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land, in the Fourteenth Amendment, explicitly and imperatively requires every State in the Union to equally protect the right to life of every innocent person, and requires that each and every person be provided with the Equal Protection of the laws by each State. The practice of human abortion is the grossest violation of Equal Protection imaginable.

“No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” — The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Even if abortion was “the law of the land,” which it is not, any such lawless law or constitution would be NULL AND VOID anyway, grossly violating as it must the first Law of Nature, which is the absolute right and DUTY of the people, and of ALL governments, to protect innocent life, individual liberty, and private property.

“Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation, commonly called the first law of nature.” — Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists, the Report of the Committee of Correspondence to the Boston Town Meeting, November 20, 1772

“An unjust law is no law at all.” – St. Augustine of Hippo

“Good and wise men, in all ages...have supposed, that the Deity, from the relations, we stand in, to Himself and to each other, has constituted an eternal and immutable law, which is, indispensably, obligatory upon all mankind, prior to any human institution whatever. This is what is called the law of nature, which, being coeval with mankind, and dictated by God himself, is, of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries at all times. No human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid, derive all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original.” — William Blackstone

“When human laws contradict or discountenance the means, which are necessary to preserve the essential rights of any society, they defeat the proper end of all laws, and so become null and void.” — Alexander Hamilton

Not only is the practice of human abortion NOT “the law of the land,” it COULD NOT BE the law of a land premised as this one is in a clear understanding and acknowledgment of the laws of nature and of nature’s God.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain UNALIENABLE rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men...” — The Declaration of Independence

Every elected executive, every legislator, every judge, that allows the practice of human abortion to continue anywhere in America is in gross violation of their sacred oath of office. They have, as our constitutional republic’s founders charged against King George III in our nation’s charter, the Declaration of Independence, “abdicated government here by declaring us out of [their] protection and waging war against us.”

They must, by any and all lawful means, be removed and replaced by those who understand the foundations for law in America and the most fundamental and important obligations of their oaths.

That, by the mercy and grace of God, is the only hope we have to prevent the further destruction of America.


38 posted on 10/04/2014 2:40:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Unjust or unconstitutional laws are no laws at all. They are null and void.)
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