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US NURSES: We're Not Prepared To Handle Ebola Patients
Reuters ^ | October 4, 2014 | JULIE STEENHUYSEN, REUTERS

Posted on 10/04/2014 7:02:31 AM PDT by maggief

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To: maggief

BTTT!


41 posted on 10/04/2014 10:32:37 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: cpdiii
The real problem is we do not have many rooms in our hospitals that can provide this level of care.

Don't forget the morgue and disposal of the body.

42 posted on 10/04/2014 10:46:05 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Black Agnes

LOL - well put.


43 posted on 10/04/2014 10:54:23 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Gator113

Good grief, Gator! I’m glad you made it through all that and I am upset that you suffered like that. Dang.


44 posted on 10/04/2014 12:05:51 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Diogenesis
Taking care of Ebola is not “a fundamental of infection control”. It is Level IV.

In the past decade, 5 cases of hemorrhagic fever have been imported into the US--one case of Marburg and 4 cases of Lassa. These are all considered level 4 agents, all are quarantinable by executive order, and all of those cases were managed through the normal infectious disease protocols that exist at every hospital. Not a single one of those led to a secondary infection of health care workers.

The Marburg case is especially interesting. Marburg is sister to Ebola, being from the same virus family and causing nearly identical disease with a high death rate. The patient was hospitalized in Jan, 2008, and had a surgical intervention while in the hospital. For continuing weakness, she received a blood transfusion after being released from the hospital. She was not diagnosed with Marburg until July 2008, when she requested retesting because she had heard about a Dutch tourist who had developed a fatal case of Marburg after visiting a bat cave in Uganda. The woman had also visited that cave in December, 2007, days before falling ill.

If health care workers were able to treat a woman with Marburg and manage to avoid getting sick even though they didn't know she had Marburg, I'm fairly certain that any hospital can do the same with Ebola, especially since they will know they are dealing with Ebola.

45 posted on 10/04/2014 12:36:37 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

Your response is eloquent but mistaken.

First, not every hospital is a tertiary care hospital,
and even Walmart now sees the ill. There is a very wide
range in the capacity and ability of health care.

Second, as you have seen in this first case, the system
does NOT always work. Here the patient even said where
he was from, but nothing was reported up the chain.

Third, being certain is hardly a guarantee.
Americans want the highest likelihood of their
survival -— free of disease. And they deserve it,
although Obola and the EXEMPT Congress disagree.


46 posted on 10/04/2014 12:48:47 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: ogen hal

No we don’t.


47 posted on 10/04/2014 12:52:56 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Diogenesis
Second, as you have seen in this first case, the system does NOT always work. Here the patient even said where he was from, but nothing was reported up the chain.

That is not a breakdown of the system, it was a human error. Unfortunately, even people who work in hospitals are only human and prone to mistakes; in this case, the mistake led to a two day delay in isolating this man, during which he could expose others.

In my experience, hospitals are always reviewing procedures--usually because of some human error like this one--and trying to devise new protocols to address the pitfalls of the previous procedures. I have no doubt that hospital and CDC officials are discussing this lapse (ad nauseum) and brainstorming ways to avoid such lapses in the future; probably the hospital staff is being retrained on procedures. It is probably impossible to come up with a foolproof procedure, but we do what we can.

48 posted on 10/04/2014 1:43:30 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: NautiNurse

~It is difficult to understand your garbled attempt at using the English language, but it seems you are trying to say that nurses should be willing to die because patient care is their profession.~

How can they say they are unprepared? From that I learnt about Ebola it is not that much a big deal and it transmits the way many other diseases do. Are they incompetent or what?


49 posted on 10/04/2014 5:19:36 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: XenaLee

“I heard that the hazmat cleanup for Duncan re: the apartment he’d been staying is about $65,000.”

For $65k one would think that would provide more than a couple of mexicans and a power washer and a crappy job of wrapping the car in plastic.

Of course that is government dollars. In the real world that work could be done for $6,500 at the most.


50 posted on 10/04/2014 5:25:45 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


51 posted on 10/04/2014 9:54:23 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re Welcome, Alamo-Girl!


52 posted on 10/05/2014 2:05:32 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: maggief

My wife is a clinical nurse specialist. From what she tells me and what I see, this is about what I expected.


53 posted on 10/12/2014 1:18:59 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: cpdiii
As a medical professional familiar with sterile technique I could "probably do this" provided I had access to proper gowns, masks, gloves, etc.

For the average person, such PPE would be as much of a liability as an asset because they might offer a false sense of security. They're good for a "bug-out" procedure, and not much more. Taking it off safely is tricky and requires practice.

54 posted on 10/12/2014 1:23:55 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: Organic Panic

Only the 0bola voters think that.

(You’re right about his true attitude, though.)


55 posted on 10/12/2014 1:24:02 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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