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1 posted on 10/03/2014 9:00:31 AM PDT by xzins
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Why this timing for the change?

Another good question


2 posted on 10/03/2014 9:01:06 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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www.house.gov

www.senate.gov

Call your reps and tell them to shut immigration down from West Africa including people coming from other hubs, and to shut our southern border down.

We have to act now to stop this.

We can plainly see our fearless leaders do not have control of the situation.

The reps have to hear a groundswell from us.

The family you save may be your own.


3 posted on 10/03/2014 9:01:10 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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I don't think this is some kind of conspiracy.

The 1995 paper's cited here is a red herring-- the authors of this paper have long stated that it was not performed under controlled conditions and that the apparent transmission has a number of alternate explanations-- it was also for a unique strain of Ebola (Reston) that does not cause disease in humans.

The more recent paper from 2012 Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates did in fact strongly suggest that pigs were able to transmit the virus to macaques through the air; however, the authors did conclude that it could have occurred either by inhalation (of aerosol or larger droplets), by droplet inoculation of eyes and mucosal surfaces, or by fomites due to droplets generated during the cleaning of the room. This is important because for true airborne transmission the pathogen must be able to attach to and infect cells in the upper respiratory tract of the target-- this was not demonstrated and would require an additional adaptive mutation (although other studies have suggested it is possible in non-human primates). Thus the macaques may have been absorbing droplets that were swallowed, or rubbed/splashed on eyes or other mucoscal surfaces. This is still bad, but not as bad as infection by direct inhalation.

Also, the pigs DID clearly have infection of cells in the nasopharynx-- but this has only been observed in pigs to date.

To tidy up these loose ends, the same authors published a new paper in the spring,

Article Here

using only primates, and found that they could not transmit the virus through the air. They concluded that "two NHPs were lethally infected with EBOV, and no EBOV virus or antibodies to EBOV GP were detected in the neighbouring uninfected NHPs for up to 28 days after the challenge date. The presence of transmission in the pig-NHP experiment and not the NHP-NHP experiment, both performed under similar conditions and environments, could be explained by the fact that EBOV disease in pigs is respiratory in nature with high amounts of infectious particles present in the oro-nasal cavities in the symptomatic phase of the disease which provided an opportunity for release into the environment."

5 posted on 10/03/2014 9:29:55 AM PDT by LambSlave
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My concern is that Ebola is the perfect crisis to suspend the Constitution impose marshal law and cancel the elections, for our national good of course. OK maybe not all three at once.

The question is am I just being paranoid, or not paranoid enough?

7 posted on 10/03/2014 10:12:18 AM PDT by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping…

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

15 posted on 10/03/2014 6:11:16 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: xzins; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
The game of Ebola Roulette continues...

*click* spin *click* spin *click* spin…BANG!

Eeeee-bolllll-aaaaaa ping!

Bring Out Your Dead

We’re gonna need

a bigger cart!

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

16 posted on 10/03/2014 6:59:15 PM PDT by null and void (If the wage gap were real, American companies would be hiring millions of women to save a buck)
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FLASHBACK: Obama Administration Dumped Quarantine Rules----sucked-up to civil libertarians
Breitbart ^ | 10/01/14 | Kerry Picket / Posted by Enlightened1

Politico initially reported in August of 2009 that the Obama administration examined Bush administration 2005 quarantine regulations, which were criticized by civil liberty advocates.

In April 2010, Politico reported the administration “quietly dumped quarantine rules that would have required air passengers to submit more information to airlines and strengthened the government's authority to detain travelers suspected of carrying disease.” (Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

19 posted on 10/05/2014 4:02:37 AM PDT by Liz ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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Hillary said it takes a village. But it took only one doofus--- Obama---to expose the lib/prog's dumb "humanitarian" elitism that is endangering us.

These brain-dead, feel-good types believe “singling out” backward nations or antediluvian cultures which pose deadly threats to the public health or safety of Americans “stigmatizes” those nations or cultures, it “shames” them, it makes them "feel" unequal.

It’s (horrors) "judgmental."

We can never, Ever suggest that America prefers already existing tax-paying, law-abiding citizens to foreigners w/ big plans for our heads.

Dumbo Dummycrats are the reasons for the deluge of Central American refugees, the reason why illegals never feel the sting of US justice, the reason we remain unable to strip jihadists of US citizenship.

The reason why a year after two Chechen refugees on expired visas bombed/maimed/killed Boston Marathoners, America is preparing to expand resettlement of blood-thirsty individuals who have big plans for our heads, and border-jumpers carrying horrific contagious diseases.

20 posted on 10/05/2014 4:08:44 AM PDT by Liz ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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