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Oil, Rail Industries Want 7 Years To Fix Tank Cars
AP via Rig Zone ^ | September 30, 2014 | Joan Lowy

Posted on 10/01/2014 7:23:30 AM PDT by thackney

The oil and railroad industries are urging U.S. regulators to allow them as long as seven years to retrofit existing tank cars that transport highly volatile crude oil, a top oil industry official said Tuesday. The cars have ruptured and spilled oil during collisions, leading to intense fires...

...jointly asking the Department of Transportation for six to 12 months for rail tank car manufacturers to gear up to retrofit tens of thousands of cars and another three years to retrofit older cars....

...also want three years after that to retrofit newer tank cars manufactured since 2011, known as "1232 cars,"...

In July, the transportation department proposed that older cars be retrofitted within two years....


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; oil; rail
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To: pfony1

Appreciate your post.


21 posted on 10/01/2014 9:29:44 AM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Long Rail tanker producers.

I've been long on Greenbrier sin e it was $18/sh. Stock price down nearly $7/sh this on yesterday's Press Releases from API and ARR. Like all the other dips, it has allowed me another opportunity to accumulate. Guidance has GBX at $85... 4Q earnings report due at end of this month. GBX has treated me well, your milage may vary.

22 posted on 10/01/2014 10:35:55 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Vermont Lt
Who builds those cars?

Greenbrier, UTLX, Trinity, American Railcar are a couple.

23 posted on 10/01/2014 10:39:14 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Lockbox

The problem is the market is so volitile... that on a day by day basis capital ivestment decisions change based on the WTI/Brent Light Sweet Crude spread. Rail is there already and transload sites require very little (comparitive to a 1500 mile pipeline) infrastructure to have up and running in as little as 3 weeks... 1 week with an existing, underutilized siding.

Many oilmen want immediate NOW NOW NOW ways to play the spread... they are not waiting for piplines.


24 posted on 10/01/2014 10:45:18 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Vermont Lt

Union Tank Car for one. I’d have to look up the other ones. Most of the railcars are built and sold to leasing companies, so the ID numbers on them
are hard to track back to the manufacturer of the car.


25 posted on 10/01/2014 10:56:22 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Oh, and Trinity, Greenbrier, Railcar America, and others. The oil industry also purchases cars directly, as pointed out earlier by thackney. Tankcars and covered hoppers (for grain and dry commodities) are a really hot sought after item right now. The railroads went through a bad spell during the recession, and now we have to play catch up, and we have more work than we can handle right now.


26 posted on 10/01/2014 11:09:28 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: pfony1

#8 which I believe should have been your #1 Failure to chock the wheels. And #9 Failure to properly set the manual brakes on a sufficient number of cars.


27 posted on 10/01/2014 11:12:32 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Vermont Lt

RE: GBX... basically, as Laz would say, “I’d Hit It”.

Seriously, I have bought on dips since January 2013, timing every one just about perfectly... and I am up... a lot.


28 posted on 10/01/2014 11:13:10 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: B4Ranch

it all comes under the banner of not enforcing existing RR operating rules...


29 posted on 10/01/2014 11:25:18 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: factoryrat
Loaded frac sand covered hoppers in, loaded DOT-111 crude oil tanks out!

Keystone XL won't pipeline the sand to the oilpatch.

30 posted on 10/01/2014 11:28:58 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

Also if you do not know if you will ever be able to get permits for a pipeline, there goes your ROI calculation.


31 posted on 10/01/2014 12:17:09 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Obadiah

The most inefficient way would be truckloads of barrels. By rail, the oil is getting to refineries what would be using imported crude, and having the ability to change delivery points with an order versus building a different pipeline just might be more efficient in its own way.


32 posted on 10/01/2014 5:38:07 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Paul R.

What really suffered was telephone (cell). It used to be the static was a problem, but digital packeting makes sure that background noise makes a bloody hash of any communications from an environment that isn’t quiet, not to mention the burst of static at the termination of an analog connection at least saved you talking into a dead line...


33 posted on 10/01/2014 5:41:51 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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