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Cruz, Jindal shine as Paul fades
The Hill ^
| September 26, 2014, 05:11 pm
| Alexandra Jaffe and Cameron Joseph
Posted on 09/27/2014 5:43:39 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
It was Ted Cruz's party at the Values Voters Summit in Washington on Friday.
The Texas Republican senator began the event with a deeply religious and emotional speech, pacing the stage and speaking with the cadence of a preacher, repeatedly rallying the crowd to its feet and jumping into an eager throng of supporters after his address.
But Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal emerged as a surprising star of the conference with an alternately fiery and funny address to the crowd Friday evening, which brought them to their feet for a standing ovation with his closing declaration that we are ready for a hostile takeover.Crowds seemed far more skeptical of Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who spoke just after Cruz. While they warmly welcomed Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), he responded with a lecturing speech that earned few applause.
Paul tried to make a case for how his libertarian ideals would mesh with their religious fervor. But his reception to the faithful was tepid, with many skeptical of his seemingly ambivalent comments on abortion earlier this year despite his focus on the issue during Friday's speech.
Jindal likely put himself on the map with his warmly-received speech that wove his personal story together with conservative red meat and witty jokes and jabs at Obama.
Though he polls in the bottom three of most surveys of the potential GOP presidential field, it seemed clear on Friday that Jindal would make an aggressive candidate if he runs, and would find considerable support among the GOPs social conservative base.
Prior to Jindals address, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins praised all the potential candidates, but said Cruz got people excited because of his blunt style.
At the heart what they are looking for is leaders who will say what they mean and mean what they say. Theyre not looking for nuanced speeches. I think thats why Ted Cruz gets such a strong reception he just says it like it is. He doesnt kind of shuck and jive, he says what he means," he told The Hill.
Cruz delivered a speech that veered from the emotional to the fiery, running from his family's own struggles when his father briefly left to the persecution of Christians abroad. He drew standing ovations when he called on the crowd to "vote Harry Reid out" and when he said when a Republican wins the White House in 2017, (drawing yells of "you, you" from the crowd), the party would repeal every word of ObamaCare.
Paul sought to merge his libertarian-leaning philosophy with social conservative beliefs on Friday, telling the religious crowd at the summit that the two go hand-in-hand and calling for a religious "revival" in the U.S.
"Where there is liberty there is always plenty of space for God," Paul concluded at the end of a speech at times punchy and professorial.
Paul drew applause when he said President Obama "acts like a king" and effectively worked the crowd's fury at oppression of Christians abroad, saying that until Asia Bibi, a Christian sitting in prison in Pakistan, "is freed, Pakistan should not receive a penny of U.S. aid."
But he avoided gay marriage, and while he sought to assure the social conservatives he was with them on abortion, the way he framed it leaves question marks for the movement, especially after comments this spring on Roe v. Wade that many read as ambivalent.
"The debate isn't really about whether government has a role in protecting life. The debate really hinges on when life begins," the ophthalmologist told the crowd. "Don't tell me that 5- and 6-pound babies have no rights simply because they're not yet born."
Perkins admitted that Paul isn't fully trusted by the movement, though he said it was clear Paul was looking to "bolster those credentials" on opposition to abortion with his opening video focused on the issue.
"His needle points more toward the libertarian viewpoint. There is a skepticism of libertarianism," he said.
Santorum, who placed second in the 2012 GOP presidential primary with the help of social conservatives, received standing ovations when he arrived and departed, but for much of his speech the room was dead silent, a stark contract to Cruz and Jindals receptions.
The Pennsylvania former senator delivered a somber and hectoring speech focused on "existential threats" from the Middle East and a push to keep the GOP from abandoning social issues like gay marriage and abortion.
"Quit being scared and start being activists and making things happen in America," he said in one of the few lines of the speech that drew applause. "Do something."
Santorum received standing ovations at the beginning and end of his speech.
Jindal offered both an indictment of the Obama administration, which he said doesnt stand up for religious liberty and has made America not only weaker but the world a more dangerous place, and a vision for rejuvenating the American Dream that my parents taught me.
He described that as an America where we are forever young, an America where our best days are ahead of us, not behind us, an America where circumstances of your birth dont determine your outcomes as an adult, where were not guaranteed equal outcomes, were guaranteed equal opportunity.
Perkins said Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R), who spoke Friday evening, often gets the same type of response; the evangelical leader said the social conservative movement is just looking for somebody whos going to speak the truth and not make apologies for their conservative views.
Huckabee held his own in the evening session, mixing folksy humor and his Baptist preacher background to slam Obama's foreign policy and by extension, Clinton's.
He keyed off former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's 2008 campaign ad featuring a ringing phone at 3:00 a.m. to argue that Obama isn't answering the call of the presidency.
"I think we know who we don't want to answer it," he said to laughs and claps from the crowd.
"On Sept. 11 two years ago the phone did ring and I guess it went to voicemail because when the desperate calls for help came from Benghazi, Libya, nobody answered that call," he said. "And today the phone's still ringing. The phone is ringing in Syria where ISIS has set up shop."
Cruz will need to eat into Huckabee's base if both run. The former Arkansas governor has led preliminary polls in early-voting Iowa, driven by his strong appeal to evangelical Christians in a state he won in 2008, while Cruz has lagged behind.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cruz; paultard; tedcruz; texas; valuesvoters; valuesvoterssummit
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posted on
09/27/2014 5:44:04 AM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: SoConPubbie; MinuteGal
Jindal doesn’t turn me on at all. He talks too fast, I don’t trust him, he’s too ugly (just sayin) he is a real petty bureaucrat type; he’s best staying right where he is. He’s a perfect Governor, a lousy Presidential type.
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posted on
09/27/2014 5:58:45 AM PDT
by
flaglady47
(The useful idiots always go first)
To: SoConPubbie
Paul’s fading because he sold his political soul to McConnell and has been talking crazy about foreign policy like his dad.
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:01:32 AM PDT
by
Timber Rattler
(Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
To: SoConPubbie
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====== RICK SANTORUM'S Incredible CONSERVATIVE Voting Record ======
(Source: Free Republic's Psycho-Freep, 2012-03-05)
NEA
Voted for taxpayer funding of the National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted against a 10% cut in the budget for National Endowment for the Arts.
Bankruptcy
Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy.
Defense and Foreign Policy
Voted for the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).
Voted against requiring the President to certify that the CWC is effectively verifiable.
Voted against requiring the President to certify that that Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, North Korea, China, and all other countries determined to be state sponsors of terror have joined CWC prior to submitting the instrument of ratification.
Voted for the START II Treaty
Voted to allow the sale of supercomputers to China.
Voted to ban antipersonnel landmines
Voted against increasing defense spending offset by equivalent cuts in non-defense spending.
Voted to require that Federal bureaucrats get the same payraises as uniformed military.
Voted to allow food and medicine sales to state sponsors of terror and tyranical regimes such as Libya and Cuba.
Voted to limit the Presidents authority to impose sanctions on nations for reasons of national security unless the sanctions were approved by a multilateral regime.
Voted against requiring Congressional authorization for military action in Bosnia.
Voted to give $25 million in foreign aid to North Korea
Voted to weaken alien terrorist deportation provisions. If the Court determines that the evidence must be withheld for national security reasons, the Justice Department must still provide a summary of the evidence sufficient for the alien terrorist to mount a defense against deportation.
Voted against delaying the India Nuclear until the President certified that India had agreed to suspend military-to-military exchanges with Iran.
Voted against the Conventional Trident Missile Program
Nominations
Voted for Richard Paez to the 9th Curcuit (cloture)
Voted for Sonia Sotomayor, Circuit Judge
Voted for Richard Holbrooke to be Ambassador to the UN
Voted for Margaret Morrow to be District Judge
Voted twice for Marsha Berzon to the 9thg Circuit
Voted for Mary McLaughlin to be District Judge
Voted for Tim Dyk to be District Judge
Voted for James Brady to be District Judge
Union Labor
Voted against National Right to Work Act
Voted against Real of Davis-Bacon Prevailing union wages
Voted for Alexis Herman to be Secretary of Labor
Voted for mandatory Federal child care funding
Voted for Trade Adjustment Assistance.
Voted for Job Corps funding
Voted twice in support of Fedex Unionization
Voted against allowing a waiver of Davis-Bacon in emergency situations.
Voted for minimum wage increases six times here here here here here and here
Voted to require a union representative on an IRS oversight board.
Voted to exempt IRS union representative from criminal ethics laws.
Voted against creating independent Board of Governors to investigate IRS abuses.
Guns
Voted to require pawn shops to do background checks on people who pawn a gun.
Voted twice to make it illegal to sell a gun without a secure storage or safety device
Voted for a Federal ban on possession of assault weapons by those under 18.
Voted for Federal funding for anti-gun education programs in schools.
Voted for anti-gun juvenile justice bill.
Reform
Voted for funding for the legal services corporation.
Voted twice for a Congressional payraise.
Voted to impose a uniform Federal mandate on states to force them to allow convicted rapits, arsonists, drug kingpins, and all other ex-convicts to vote in Federal elections.
Voted for the Specter backup plan to allow campaign finance reform to survive if portions of the bill were found unconstitutional.
Voted to mandate discounted broadcast times for politicians.
Voted for a McCain amendment to require State and local campaign committees to report all campaign contributions to the FEC and to require all campaign contributions to be reported to the FEC within 24 hours within 90 days of an election.
Immigration
Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border partrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.
Taxes
Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted to say that AMT patch is more important than capital gains and dividend relief.
Welfare
Voted against food stamp reform
Voted against Medicaid reform
Voted against TANF reform
Voted to increase the Social Services Block Grant from $1 billion to $2 billion
Voted to increase the FHA loan from $170,000 to $197,000. Also opposed increasing GNMA guaranty from 6 basis points to 12.
Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.
Government Waste
Sponsored An amendment to increase Amtrak funds by $550 million
Voted to use HUD funds for the Joslyn Art Museum (NE), the Stand Up for Animals project (RI) and the Seattle Art Museums Olympic Sculpture Project (WA)
Voted to increase spending on social programs by $7 billion
Voted to increase NIH funding by $1.6 billion.
Voted to increase NIHnding by $700 million
Voted to for a $2 million earmark to renovate the Vulcan Monument (AL)
Voted for a $1 billion bailout for the steel industry
Voted against requiring that highway earmarks would come out of a states highway allocation
Voted to allow Market Access Program funds to go to foreign companies.
Voted to allow OPIC to increase its administrative costs by 50%
Voted against transferring $20 million from Americorps to veterans.
Voted for the $140 billion asbestos compensation bill.
Voted against requiring a uniform medical criteria to ensure asbestos claims were legitimate.
Voted to increase community development programs by $2 billion.
Spending and Entitlements
Voted to make Medicare part B premium subsidies an new entitlement.
Voted against paying off the debt ($5.6 trillion at the time) within 30 years.
Voted to give $18 billion to the IMF.
Voted to raid Social Security instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.
Health Care
Voted to allow states to impose health care mandates that are stricter than proposed new Federal mandates, but not weaker.
Voted twice for Federal mental health parity mandates in health insurance.
Voted against a allow consumers the option to purchase a plan outside the parity mandate.
Education
Voted to increase Federal funding for teacher testing
Voted to increase spending for the Department of Education by $3.1 billion.
Voted against requiring courts to consider the impact of IDEA awards on a local school district.
Energy
Voted to allow the President to designate certain sites as interim nuclear waste storage sites in the event that he determines that Yucca Mountain is not a suitable site for a permanent waste repository. Those sites are as follows: the nuclear waste site in Hanford, Washington; the Savannah River Site in South Carolina; Barnwell County, South Carolina; and the Oak Ridge Reservation in Tennessee.
Voted to make fuel price gouging a Federal crime.
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====== NEWT GINGRICH'S GREAT 2012 CAMPAIGN SPEECHES ======
CPAC 2012 Speech -- Newt Gingrich, U.S. President Elect
CPAC 2012 Speech -- Sarah Palin, U.S. Vice President Elect
Nancy Reagan (1995) : Ronnie turned that Torch over to Newt
NRA Second Amendent Speech -- Newt Gingrich
U.S. Energy Independence in 2012 -- Speech
U.S. Energy Independence in 2012 -- Newt Gingrich
"America's Space Renaissance" in Florida !
Newt Gingrich -- Vision for America in Space Again
Why is Newt Gingrich So Angry ?
Newt Gingrich : South Carolina Victory Speech (2012-01-21)
Newt Gingrich : Christmas Day in 1776 George Washington's "Victory or Death"
Newt Stoutly Defends the Second Amendment (Right to Bear Arms)
Newt Gingrich Constitutional Removal of Radial-Liberal Federal Judges
Newt Slams an "Increasingly Radical" EPA
Newt Defends Israel and Shows how the Palestinians are an "Invented" people !
Newt Warns against the Proposed 9-11 NYC Islamic Mosque and Islamic Sharia Law
Gingrich Compares Radical-Isalmics Muslims To Nazis
Newt Gingrich On The Threat Of Radical Islam
Newt Gingrich Americas Defense of Judea-Christian Ideals and Defense against Islamic Fascism
Gingrich: Aggressive Prosecution of Radical-Militant U.S. Muslim Groups
Newt Gingrich: Response to CNNs John King Divorce Question
Newt Gingrich to Juan Williams: Americans Want Paychecks, Not Food Stamps
Gingrich BLASTS Chris Wallace for his "Gotcha" Questions at Iowa Debate
Newt Destroys Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Vis-à-Vis Killing Osama bin Laden
Gingrich: My Credential Is 4.2% Unemployment
Newt Slams Obama's Stupidity on the Keystone Pipeline
Gingrich attacks Federal Reserve (Bernanke and Geitner) Deception and Corruption
Newt Discusses Job Creation and Dismantling Federal (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac)
Newt: No American President Should Bow to a Saudi King
Newt Gingrich: Super PAC Committee Is Washington's Dumbest Idea
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To: Timber Rattler
Pauls fading because he sold his political soul to McConnell and has been talking crazy about foreign policy like his dad. I'm surprised by his rapid self-destruction, but pleased. The Tea Party needs to rally behind Ted EARLY.
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:04:06 AM PDT
by
St_Thomas_Aquinas
( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
To: SoConPubbie
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:05:25 AM PDT
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Timber Rattler
Rand also worked with Holder to push early release and now one woman is beheaded and another stabbed. POS.
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:07:44 AM PDT
by
stilloftyhenight
(...staying home isn't an option.)
To: SoConPubbie
Shouldn’t we at least wait until 2015 before we talk about shining and fading?
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:07:50 AM PDT
by
jalisco555
("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
To: SoConPubbie
My impression of the summit speeches is similar to this one, with a few additions.
Gov. Palin enjoys her role as grande dame--or, perhaps, the dowager empress--of the GOP conservative wing, and has no intention of risking the role by running in 2016. She realizes, I suspect, that if she runs for anything and loses again, her cachet will diminish, and she will look less like a leader and more like a loser--and the media would make sure of that.
Rep. Bachmann is Gov. Palin without the camera presence. If she runs she will flop before she starts. She would make an effective Secretary of Education in a Cruz administration, if her purpose there was to do what Bill Bennett was supposed to do and didn't, which was (and is) to dismantle the DOE and devolve control of education to the states.
Sen. Santorum and Gov. Huckabee are political has-beens. Huckabee could become the personal chaplain of President Cruz, which would place him in a religious rather than a political role, a mini-version of Billy Graham. Santorum could be placated by a minor cabinet position like Secretary of Commerce in the Cruz administration, but he probably would be better off in a ministry, a kind of contemporary Chuck Colson.
Which leaves Gov. Jindal. Pols usually don't like choosing a ticket with members of adjoining states, but Jindal gave the almost-perfect VP speech at the summit, and Cruz/Jindal could crush Hillary-Clinton/Juan-Castro, because Cruz and Jindal are the two people who will take the fight to the enemy, rather than do what Republicans always seem to do, which is to wait for the attack and then try to fend it off.
That's the take of someone who was 1000 miles from the summit...
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:08:59 AM PDT
by
chajin
("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
To: SoConPubbie
Cruz will need to eat into Huckabee's base if both run. The former Arkansas governor has led preliminary polls in early-voting Iowa, driven by his strong appeal to evangelical Christians in a state he won in 2008, while Cruz has lagged behind.Does Huckabee really have a base big enough to worry about?
To: Timber Rattler
“been talking crazy about foreign policy like his dad”
Such as voting against arming Syrian “moderate rebels”. Looney. /s
To: SoConPubbie
I think Jindal is the better choice of the two as presidential material. They both seem to agree ideologically, but Bobby has the experience of being a governor.
To: Timber Rattler
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:22:35 AM PDT
by
tennmountainman
(True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
To: Timber Rattler
Pauls fading because he sold his political soul to McConnell and has been talking crazy about foreign policy like his dad.Give the man a BlackJack, nailed it in 21 words.
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:22:54 AM PDT
by
USS Alaska
(Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
To: SoFloFreeper
I think Jindal is the better choice of the two as presidential material. They both seem to agree ideologically, but Bobby has the experience of being a governor
Could not disagree more.
Cruz simply has different experience than Jindal and Cruz is a much more formidable, consistent, and strong conservative than Jindal.
Add in he is smarter and communicate much better and I don't see how Jindal is a better choice than Cruz for POTUS.
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:23:36 AM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: ican'tbelieveit
Huckabee’s entire base resides in Iowa. THAT’S why it’s a nightmare scenario.
To: chajin
Cruz/Jindal. Interesting take. Does sound good though, and you’re right that these two would take the fight straight to the Dems and never let up. Something we haven’t seen from GOP presidential and vice presidential candidates lately.
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:26:22 AM PDT
by
dowcaet
To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
Iowa is native habitat for the RINO. Huckabee is the perfect candidate for self-professed Christians who find ‘soft’ socialism appealing.
With Iowa’s caucus system, leading in polls or straw votes doesn’t really matter. Ask Santorum and Romney. Though they split the Iowa caucus straw vote, Iowa delegates to the national convention would have supported Ron Paul if the canadidate hadn’t already been decided.
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:33:14 AM PDT
by
jjotto
("Ya could look it up!")
To: Kartographer
Awesome artwork. If u did this you are one talented artist!
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posted on
09/27/2014 6:44:23 AM PDT
by
tennmountainman
(True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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