[Theodore R.]

I remember Senator Brown; like his CO compatriots he was and presumably is strongly pro-abort.

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

Dogma is more important. Colleges are modeling themselves as a Liberal Madrassa’s.

[Theodore R.]

So many things are becoming obsolete, including traditional “teaching”.

[eyeamok]

a system that leads to majors that go nowhere.

Does this mean my degree in Lesbian Dance Theory isn’t going to get me a High Paying Job?? What about the $50,000 in Student Loan Debt to get that degree?? Do I still have to pay it?

[RipSawyer]

The value of a recent bachelor degree is now well below what the value of a public high school diploma was in the 1960s job market and falling.

Young boys are graduating from universities at an age when their grandfathers were married homeowners with one or two children and they are taking jobs, IF THEY CAN FIND ONE, that their grandfathers would have turned down at eighteen with only a high school diploma. Instead of the home and family that grandpa had at 22 they are looking at a big student loan debt with no way to pay it. Some great progress we are making.

[faithhopecharity]

University studies are NOT necessarily related to employment, indeed many major areas of study do not lead to any significant employment at all. Students presumably select such majors because they wish to learn about things for the sake of learning. This is why many majors are called the “liberal arts” (liberals don’t do productive work?)
or the “humanities”

This has been a tradition for centuries. Indeed, MOST university majors were understood to be unrelated to any employment opportunities ... if you wanted job training, you’d go to a technical or trade or business school, not a university)

just saying. the confusion some people seem to have between university studies and “job training” is harmful...

[arderkrag]

I asked him whether college accreditation boards even considered the post-graduation employment of graduates as an afterthought in their reviews.

I personally wouldn't accredit a school based on employment rates of former students at all.

[redgolum]

We need to change what college is for.

There is a movement to reclaim the “liberal arts” as a means to build a life. Trouble is that if I am paying (or hiring) someone to be an engineer, I don’t care what liberal arts they took.

School is to teach you how to make a living. If you have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in order to “learn how to live life well”, you have failed out of the gate.

I know that makes many professors angry, but that is the fact. As an employer, I am the end customer. I don’t get a crap if they were forced to read Plato, can they do a mass balance?