Posted on 09/16/2014 11:19:28 AM PDT by Mount Athos
R.O.P. my arse.
The West missed a huge opportunity at the end of WWI to hold the Ottoman leaders to account, just as we did the Nazis in WWII. A new government, with a revived Constantinople, could have been established - and history, and even many of the Turks themselves, would have accepted it as reasonable victor’s justice.
Moslems are the eternal savages, the forever beasts of humanity.
Islam must be destroyed.
Awful, and Unfortunately there’s no reason to think that the jihadist crimes of this century won’t surpass those of the last one.
I grew up hearing these stories.
Nukes and poison gas should be on the table. The wealth accumulated through the sale of oil should be confiscated, and then the entire Muslim world should be quarantined. We do not need their oil. If we didn’t have a Muslim terrorist in the White House, we could be energy-independent.
That would have required an invasion of Turkey and the deaths of hundreds of thousands more Triple Entente (and American) troops. No one was up for more blood-letting. They were all fought out.
FReepers in the Boston area should visit the Armenian Museum of America.
65 Main Street | Watertown, MA 02472 | (617) 926-2562
https://www.armenianmuseum.org/index.html
Permanent Genocide Exhibit
2nd Floor
The exhibit is a stunning visual narrative of the events of the 1915-1923 Genocide, and the continuing aftermath and denial by the Turkish government over generations. The exhibit’s texts and overall design were created by an Armenian Museum committee: Haig Der Manuelian (Chairman), Dr. Barbara Merguerian, Gina Hablanian, Gary Lind-Sinanian, and Arakel Almasian, assisted by a number of outside consultants. The striking wall graphics were designed by Ed Malouf of Content Design Collaborative. The visitor will find a chronological narrative of the tragic events leading up to World War 1, the years of Genocide (1915-1923), and the continued denial to the present.
The official opening of the exhibit in May 2011 was marked by a ribbon-cutting ceremony, performed by the first Armenian Ambassador to the United States (1993-1999), Rouben Shougarian.
It wasn’t a Caliphate. It was a nominally secular government. The Sultan was a figurehead effectively under house arrest.
Some of those guys weren’t even Muslim.
The old Ottoman system was cruel and arbitrary and not averse to slavery, despotism and the occasional massacre, but the Young Turks went a stage further, as they took the 19th century nationalist ideologies to an extreme. They were happy to consider final solutions. They were more Hitler than Mohammad.
I.e., they were getting rid of inconvenient minorities for nationalist reasons, not religious ones, though the reasons why the various minorities were not with the program were indeed religious, on their part. For the Young Turks, if one was not a Turk, or wanted to be thought of as a Turk, and was not with the “we are all Turks’ program, one was a problem.
Islam as a religion and an ideology is despicable, but there are other despicable ideologies.
The article is seriously off.
And FWIW, the perpetrators of most of this were the neighbors of the victims. Real Tutsi-Hutu stuff.
And as a matter of interest, the Kurds were the main enthusiastic participants, though not the instigators.
I favor the restoration of the Sultan and Caliph, for 3 reasons:
1) Johnny Turk was very good at sorting out Arabs. Take a few heads, take a few more scrotums, and more than a few beautiful women. The vilayet wuold be quiet for 50 years.
2) The Sultan of Turkey was not, and would not be, from the tribe of al-Saud. ‘Nuf said.
3) The Topkapi Palace’s GPS coordinates can be easily programmed into the guidance system of the Trident-D5 SLBM, in case the Sultan gets any grand ideas.
moozlums want to murder you and your family. Some moozlums will do so as soon as they can. Some moozlums will bide their time and eventually do it. Other moozlums will never do it, but will support those who do. Choose your poison.
Gallipoli
On 25 April 1915, British/ANZAC offensive failed. The Turkish commander charging counteroffensive was certain Mustafa Kemal, who got promoted to colonel because of this. It was the beginning of his stellar career.
For those who did not recognize the character, he was later known as Mustafa Kemal Pasha a.k.a. Ataturk .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzac_Day
"Gallipoli Campaign
In 1915, Australian and New Zealand soldiers formed part of an Allied expedition that set out to capture the Gallipoli Peninsula to open the way to the Black Sea for the Allied navies. The objective was to capture Constantinople, the capital of the Ottoman Empire, which was an ally of Germany during the war. The ANZAC force landed at Gallipoli on 25 April, meeting fierce resistance from the Ottoman Army commanded by Mustafa Kemal (later known as Atatürk).
What had been planned as a bold strike to knock the Ottomans out of the war quickly became a stalemate, and the campaign dragged on for eight months. At the end of 1915, the Allied forces were evacuated after both sides had suffered heavy casualties and endured great hardships. The Allied casualties included 21,255 from the United Kingdom, an estimated 10,000 dead soldiers from France, 8,709 from Australia, 2,721 from New Zealand, and 1,358 from British India."
Precisely. Turkish Jews were left untouched because they had no secessionist tendencies. The Turks similarly massacred rebellious Kurds, who are Muslims, for having such tendencies.
2nd Amendment: It’s not just for self defense against criminals....
ping
Give Obama time. He’s working on it.
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