My brother has a grandson who he loves but is a little monster and his dad enables him to be a punk. The kid receives no discipline from his father and my brother disciplines him with words but would gladly swat his butt too but his father refuses to allow that. Here’s a case where an ash hole father is creating an ash hole of an undisciplined son. Of course every scenario is a bit different from family to family.
There are many ways to discipline which don’t involve leaving bloody welts. All of them work better.