Posted on 09/12/2014 7:42:44 PM PDT by xzins
An arrest warrant was issued Friday in Texas for Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson after he was indicted on a child abuse charge for using a branch to spank his son. He won't play in Sunday's game against the New England Patriots.
The Vikings said they had deactivated Peterson for Sunday's game Friday evening, just after his lawyer and the Montgomery County sheriff's office confirmed he was
Read Adrian Peterson's lawyer Rusty Hardin's statement in full below:
Adrian Peterson has been informed that he was indicted by a grand jury in Montgomery County, Texas for Injury to a Child. The charged conduct involves using a switch to spank his son. This indictment follows Adrian’s full cooperation with authorities who have been looking into this matter. Adrian is a loving father who used his judgment as a parent to discipline his son. He used the same kind of discipline with his child that he experienced as a child growing up in east Texas. Adrian has never hidden from what happened. He has cooperated fully with authorities and voluntarily testified before the grand jury for several hours. Adrian will address the charges with the same respect and responsiveness he has brought to this inquiry from its beginning. It is important to remember that Adrian never intended to harm his son and deeply regrets the unintentional injury.
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I’ve seen them since the thread started. I’d encourage you to read about the last 50 posts or so.
Most criminal cases in the U.S. do not go to a jury, a plea agreement is usually reached before trial.
I rarely ever had to resort to physical punishment for my kids.
I needed a lot more than they did, because I was willful and insolent.
My grandkids only need the scare of "Would your mom want to see the house like this?"
Me? age 5, I'd make a rude gesture and suggest you catch me.
Not conducive to a pain-free childhood.
/johnny
“The first grand jury no billed him, It took a second try to get an indictment. History shows that is the sign of a week case.”
Or new evidence became available to the jury...
Some do, especially if the defendant has money.
I suspect this one might.
He should have listened to his lawyer earlier, I'm sure.
Low hanging fruit, and all of that.
/johnny
I was giving a somewhat delayed explanation of where I was/what I was doing.
/johnny
Nonsense, demonstrably false nonsense and cruel. I don’t know what you mean by “Age of Grace”, but there isn’t a need to hit a child for correction, ever. Well, unless the hit itself is to spare the child from further harm as in tackling someone to prevent a bullet hitting them.
You wouldn’t hit an adult. Why can you get away with it for small children? Because they’re small and vulnerable.
:)True behind.
My WWII era parents disciplined their children with belts, rods and such when necessary and they loved each other, their family, loved God and were great people. I feel most fortunate and blessed to have been raised by them — a much better generation of people I might add as an opinion.
I would like to know what point you (vicariously through the article) are making?
I’m a believer in corporal punishment when applicable and have experienced it first hand by means of the wooden spoon, (Pussy Willow - strong branch) switch, and belt on one occasion.
The lasting impression was the build-up to the dispensing of the punishment i.e. retrieval of the switch or waiting until my father got home. However and when thinking about it more closely, there was never rage within my parents and the process was a pretty controlled procedure. I was never bloodied and only had the fleeting red marks and accompanying tears. But, the lesson was taught effectively.
This incident is an attempt to conflate punishment that I and many others had experienced with abuse. Put these same exact markings (injuries) on an adult (especially a female), and you have aggravated assault.
They need correction that they didn't get as a child.
/johnny
If Gill is indicating corporal punishment he’s mistaken and it isn’t his first mistake, Bob.
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/7626.htm
The Hebrew word is shebet - rod is only one potential translation. Staff is another and more accurate. The staff is the Word of God, the only true corrective. No sheepherder beats his sheep. It’s useless and harmful.
The prudent and truly loving sheepherder uses his rod/staff to guide and correct. Correction is what is needed, not hitting.
Matthew Henry gets it right:
24. He acts as if he hated his child, who, by false indulgence, permits sinful habits to gather strength, which will bring sorrow here, and misery hereafter. 25. It is the misery of the wicked, that even their sensual appetites are always craving. The righteous feeds on the word and ordinances, to the satisfying of his soul with the promises of the gospel, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Bread of life.
Proverbs is all about turning from sin to God. For children, parents are to raise them up to God and therefore early correction before sin is deeply rooted is best and the easiest course.
So Kao why are you reading more into it other than I posted a blog that had notes listed from Charles Stanley's teaching on child discipline. I agree with virtually all of it but come to your own conclusions and findings. I already told you in an earlier post what my point is that to follow Biblical wisdom in applying discipline. Go back and read it again if you still have questions.
I think there’s pretty solid evidence on both rewarding and punishing being effective ways to change behavior.
Especially with those lacking understanding of the danger of certain behaviors, a punishment that is quick and painful is actually a pain barrier that you’ve established to have an extremely important point obeyed.
It can be an extremely loving act.
I think the pictures show Peterson went overboard. I don’t think they demonstrate a prolonged incident. Rather, knowing how fast a switching is delivered, I think they show something that was short in duration. I think a felony indictment is over the top unless you’re talking about a repeat offender. If that were the case, the article would have listed other times Peterson got in trouble for the same thing.
Go figure...
You'd think the Japanese would have a word for that.
Saved my life more than once.
/johnny
One must distinguish between the natural consequence of an action - good or bad - and punishment by a parent. The evidence is unequivocal: spanking/physical intervention doesn’t work. Negativism doesn’t work and neither does anger or nagging. The only long run effective parenting technique is positive reinforcement with redirection as needed, including time outs. That’s it.
When adults violate the law, they also are disciplined,... Generally much more irreparably than a simple spanking to change their volition.
For people who don’t love their children, your choice is their preferred option.
Oh really? It sure worked well in my family. Glad to report none of us turned out to be criminals.
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