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“We Will See Joshua in Heaven:” How My Kids Reacted When I Told Them Mommy Had an Abortion
Life News ^ | 9/11/14 | Ashley Sigrest

Posted on 09/11/2014 11:07:52 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: jonno
If someone is repentant, and asks forgiveness, then I would have the opinion that their sin is forgiven. But in the end, only God knows the heart of each of us, and he will judge accordingly and justly.

A very good answer to my question but I would counter with my own scepticism of this woman's alleged conversion and her asking for forgivness and believing she is being given it....

Has she done it and publicized it simply to relieve her own guilt or does she truly believe she will be forgiven?

I don't know, but I have a hard time believing that God or Christ would forgive anyone for killing their own child.........

As for that same forgiveness, I also can't understand how God can stand back and watch any indvidual torture or murder an innocent child while the bible simply says that God gave us free well to do what we want even if it means rejecting his word.

Children are innocent and yet God allows them to be victims of whatever attrocity mankind can do to them.......

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE..........

21 posted on 09/11/2014 2:45:13 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't harsh my buzz bro......)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Jesus Christ Himself was not merely innocent; He is Innocence personified. Even children can sin, Jesus was incapable of sin. Yet The Father "stood back and watched" (as you put it) while a gaggle of evil men subjected Him to inhuman torture for a longer time than you could have survived.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE

No, not according to human judgment it doesn't. Our Lord took upon Himself ALL of our sins: mine, yours, even Ashley Sigrest's. Speaking for myself only, I would be the basest of hypocrites if I presumed to ask God's forgiveness for my sins (for which HE suffered and died) but then turned and suggested that He couldn't or shouldn't forgive somebody else's sins. Maybe when I have taken the sins of the whole world upon my shoulders, and suffered and died for them, I'll have standing to question God's Judgement and God's Mercy. Since that's impossible, I'll just thank Him and pray for my fellow sinners.

I would counter with my own scepticism of this woman's alleged conversion

There's your problem, right there. I hope you see it.

22 posted on 09/11/2014 2:56:56 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Hot Tabasco

Whenever I ponder God’s forgiveness, I think of King David in the Old Testament. Now keep in mind that David was described as having a “heart for God”, and yet he committed some terrible sins.

At one point, he was confronted by the prophet Nathan who told him the story of a powerful man who had horribly abused a man of lower station. By the end of the story, David was incensed - “this man deserves to die!!”. To which Nathan replied: “YOU are the man”.

And David was broken, and he was humbled, and he suffered the consequences of his sin - even though he was forgiven.

My point is that we’ll never truly know if someone is sincerely sorry. We can get a clue however if we get a sense of their “brokenness”; are they humbled? are they contrite? Only God know.

I would encourage you to read from the Bible, 2 Samuel chapters 11 & 12. Then read Psalm 51: David’s prayer or “song” of repentance. In Psalm 51 we get a sense of what a contrite heart “looks” like.

Finally, the hard question: why? Why does God allow evil? First and foremost, we must have - as a foundation - the firm conviction that God is GOOD. If we misunderstand this, we’ll fail at comprehending everything else.

As to the “why”, I commend to you the following message from a man I greatly respect:
http://www.desiringgod.org/conference-messages/where-is-god-ucf


23 posted on 09/11/2014 3:44:47 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: NorthMountain
There's your problem, right there. I hope you see it.

Even children can sin

THIS is my problem and for the life of me I can't understand how you can possibly believe that a fetus or 1 or 2 or 3 year old child can commit sin..........

24 posted on 09/11/2014 3:56:10 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't harsh my buzz bro......)
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To: wagglebee

This post and the sculpture bring sighs and tears. Bless this woman for allowing the Holy Spirit to help her turn her shame and grief into a testimony to help others.


25 posted on 09/12/2014 10:34:22 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Joan Rivers -- "giving 'em hell" in heaven.)
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