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To: SoConPubbie
based on the flawed idea that the Congress can objectively "certify" that the border is secure (Without a fence mind you) and now he tries and spout control the border nonsense.

I am not saying that I agree with his plan but you have mischaracterized it.

From what I have read, the border patrol and an inspector general would produce a report determining if it was secure and then congress would vote on whether they agreed. If the boreder patrol and the IG didn't think the border was secure they wouldn't certify that it was. If a congressman didn't feel the border was secure due to the fact that there was no fence he could vote that he didn't agree with the report. Then this same report and same congressional vote would be required EVERY YEAR for several years as the existing illegals were processed.

Also, I couldn't find the 2 million number that you used.

Again, I don't think his idea is a good one and I would not support it but it isn't as bad as Gov. Pence's plan or Paul Ryan's plan or the Gang of Eight's plan. In fact, I don't know of a national politician who has laid out a detailed plan that is more conservative than Paul's. If you have seen one please enlighten me. In Paul's plan illegals would need to get in line with every other person on the globe to apply for citizenship. They would just be given permission to live here while they were waiting.

Do you have any evidence that Paul is against a fence or border security?

35 posted on 09/04/2014 2:25:07 PM PDT by nitzy
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To: nitzy
From what I have read, the border patrol and an inspector general would produce a report determining if it was secure and then congress would vote on whether they agreed. If the boreder patrol and the IG didn't think the border was secure they wouldn't certify that it was. If a congressman didn't feel the border was secure due to the fact that there was no fence he could vote that he didn't agree with the report. Then this same report and same congressional vote would be required EVERY YEAR for several years as the existing illegals were processed.

No I have not.

Rand Paul started out presenting his plan as one where the House and Senate would have to vote to "certify" that the border was secure in order to grant Amnesty to the next 2 million illegal Undocumented Democrat invaders.

He may have refined his 'plan', but it still amounts to the same flawed plan of letting all the 'Open Borders" Democrat vote about accepting any certification, which they will under any and all circumstances and probably about 50% of the GOP cowards will do the same.

Without a fence, any certification by the Border Patrol and inspector general isn't worth spit and runs the risk of being politicized.

Anyone who is actually serious about solving the illegal Immigration problem knows this.
40 posted on 09/04/2014 2:36:48 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: nitzy
Here are the links, from last year, where Rand Paul clearly lays out his own Amnesty plan for 2 million illegals per year, based on a "Certification" from a Pro-Amnesty congress that the border is "secure". No Fence, No E-Verify, No punishments for ID Fraud, and all the other misdemeanors and felonies committed by the Undocumented Democrats he wants to pardon.

Rand Paul’s “Undocumented Citizens” Path to Legality (and Citizenship) (March 20, 2013)

Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform (March 19, 2013 Article)

Rand Paul's presence-and-jobs amnesty -- WITHOUT E-Verify

Rand Paul Defends Immigration Reform: 'I've Got A News Flash' For Coulter And Limbaugh

No, America Does Not Have “De Facto Amnesty”

GOP's Rand Paul, Dems' Luis Gutierrez in step on immigration reform

Rand Paul: Pathway To Citizenship Is Needed, E-Verify Is Not

Rand Paul On Illegals: Trust But Verify

Steve Deace – Et Tu, Rand Paul?

Paul: Republican Party in Need of Facelift

43 posted on 09/04/2014 2:41:39 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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