[sunmars]

Yup, its the reality of todays warfare, this is not 1939 when wars were fought with huge armies, these days its economic, tech, strategic.

Its not 1939 europe when armies were mobilized against Hitler, this is gas reliance, economic reliance, payoffs.

There is a lot of people reliant on russian energy, winter is getting closer, Putin turned the screws, its not hero worship, its just where the power lies and a man like Obama who is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

[goldstategop]

That and Ukraine is better off rehabilitating itself than throwing away resources on a war it has no real hope of winning.

Winter is setting in soon and even Poroshenko knows Ukraine can’t survive for long without Russian gas. Who is going to replace it? And the country is bankrupt from the rule of various oligarchs who looted it.

[novemberslady]

Yup, its the reality of todays warfare, this is not 1939 when wars were fought with huge armies, these days its economic, tech, strategic.

Its not 1939 europe when armies were mobilized against Hitler, this is gas reliance, economic reliance, payoffs.

There is a lot of people reliant on russian energy, winter is getting closer, Putin turned the screws, its not hero worship, its just where the power lies and a man like Obama who is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.


I sometimes wonder, is obama surrounded by people that lie to him?
Does he think that people out here in the real world love and adore him?

Everyone I meet despises him, or are embarrassed to admit they voted for him..

I wonder does obama know that?
Because I'm sure putin does.

Putin doesn't have to do a thing to sway American opinion.