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DOT Proposes Mandating Cars Broadcast Location, Direction and Speed
CNS News ^ | 8-27-2014 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 08/27/2014 6:34:34 AM PDT by blam

August 27, 2014
By Terence P. Jeffrey

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, part of the Department of Transportation, published last week an "advanced notice of proposed rulemaking" on "vehicle-to-vehicle communications."

What NHTSA is proposing could begin a transformation in the American transportation system that makes our lives better and freer — or gives government more power over where we go and when.

In announcing its proposed rulemaking, NHTSA is stressing its intention to protect the "privacy" of American drivers.

"This document initiates rulemaking that would propose to create a new Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard, FMVSS No. 150, to require vehicle-to-vehicle communication capability for light vehicles," says NHTSA's dryly-worded notice.

What do vehicle-to-vehicle communications entail?

NHTSA has crafted a nice phrase to describe the information cars would broadcast. It is the "Basic Safety Message."

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(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cars; dot; government; tracking
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To: Arm_Bears
"And this is where in the Constitution?"

Let's see, what is not expressly prohibited is allowed? Or is it the other way around? sarcasm/

61 posted on 08/27/2014 7:42:46 AM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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To: manc

I rarely use our garmin and only used it for that trip for kicks and grins to see elevations and ETA’s at way points. I seldom turn my cell phone on and have the gps turned off on it even though “they” can track it with cell tower pings when it is on. I have a ‘12 Ram and who knows what lurks under the dash and in the ECU?


62 posted on 08/27/2014 7:44:45 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: blam
Vehicle to vehicle communication will bring vehicle hacking big time. If someone with the appropriate device wants your car or your life the execution will be easy. It is already done for assassination purposes and to steal cars by means of hacking those electronic keys. And at least one reporter who was on the cusp of divulging some damaging information was driven into a tree.

When buses get all this new tech they will make fat easy targets for Jihadists and psychopaths who won't even have to blow themselves up.

One morning DOT will announce that it is all hack-proof and the same evening some twelve year old in Tulsa will demonstrate a device he has built that does the job.

63 posted on 08/27/2014 7:50:58 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Arm_Bears

General Welfare

the catch all


64 posted on 08/27/2014 7:53:28 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: roofgoat

“General Welfare

the catch all”

“But if this saves the life of even one child it will all be worth it!”


65 posted on 08/27/2014 7:57:48 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Joe Boucher

Yeah 1984 was delayed thanks mainly to Ronald Reagan

God rest his soul

because the shennannigans going on down here surely won’t.


66 posted on 08/27/2014 8:00:56 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: Junk Silver

and we all know our pop culture will embrace this tech. And if you fight it, you will be attacked by “safety minded” citizens. Wait for it.


67 posted on 08/27/2014 8:02:42 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: blam

I propose a federal vehicle standard that does not allow such devices to be installed in vehicles - its no one’s business, but yours, for anyone to know where your vehicle is, for any reason.


68 posted on 08/27/2014 8:22:19 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: All

This is one case were a tinfoil hat will actually work.

Just place it over the transmitting antenna...:^)


69 posted on 08/27/2014 8:27:29 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: null and void

I just finished reading this story and here you already have it posted....

This is just aggravating beyond all belief. We have become a commie controlled state....we are Venezuela


70 posted on 08/27/2014 8:33:30 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Lazamataz
Answering crash Liability, who is at fault. Is it the drivers, the cars, the manufacture, or the jamming device manufacture's fault?
71 posted on 08/27/2014 9:04:31 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: bmwcyle
Answering crash Liability, who is at fault. Is it the drivers, the cars, the manufacture, or the jamming device manufacture's fault?

SkyNet.

Oh! Look! Here comes your claims adjuster now!


72 posted on 08/27/2014 9:11:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: blam

What-use a bike.


73 posted on 08/27/2014 9:17:37 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: chrisser
>"Government promises don't have the greatest track record. "

Looks like we're all Indians now.

74 posted on 08/27/2014 9:26:34 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: blam
Put it in a faraday cage like box?

Microwaves make really good faraday cages.

75 posted on 08/27/2014 10:16:41 AM PDT by zeugma (Islam: The Antidote for civilization)
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To: zeugma
"Microwaves make really good faraday cages. "

Yup.

Kinda bulky to have on the car seat beside you though.

I was thinking about something like the aluminum cigarette boxes that old guys used to keep their cigarettes.

76 posted on 08/27/2014 10:26:58 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: zeugma

77 posted on 08/27/2014 10:28:31 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: headstamp 2

Step 2 is to examine how the non-identifiable messages can be examined in conjunction with another system like a wifi dome in aggregrate in order to help us even more.

then those separate systems will be crossed with cell phone records to provide the individual profiles that insurance companies will buy. They aren’t technically lying...but they are lying.


78 posted on 08/27/2014 10:48:58 AM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: blam; zeugma

The little tins that Christmas cookies and candies come in are very useful. They come in all sizes and can be used for something little like a cell phone or larger like a laptop or radio.


79 posted on 08/27/2014 10:51:57 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Lazamataz

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH


80 posted on 08/27/2014 11:40:18 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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