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... world's first hydrogen reactor for reduction of unlimited hydrogen ...
Kochari ^ | July 22, so14 | Solar Hydrogen Trends

Posted on 08/25/2014 10:16:16 PM PDT by AZLiberty

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To: Greysard

Can we do the base-metals into gold thing, now?


81 posted on 08/26/2014 8:26:07 AM PDT by mike70
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To: TexasGator

Silly me.


82 posted on 08/26/2014 8:40:51 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: alexander_busek; AZLiberty
Fissioning atoms lighter than Lead consumes energy.
Fusioning atoms heavier than Lead consumes energy.

Not quite true, as the graph below shows. While Lead is the "stable" endpoint of a large number of decay chains involving heavy isotopes, the atomic number of lead (Z=82) is WAY too high for the claim your making; the nuclear force is not stabilizing enough to overcome the repulsion of that many protons.

Fission of Lead produces energy, IF you can find a favorable nuclear reaction kinetics to produce it. The chart below shows the break-even point, which is all the way down at the where the derivative of the binding energy per nucleon goes to zero, at Iron (Z=26.)

The corrected statement is:

Fissioning atoms lighter than Iron consumes energy.
Fusioning atoms heavier than Iron consumes energy.


83 posted on 08/26/2014 10:09:32 AM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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To: EEGator
Kevmo?

'Fraid not. When I found this LENR news, I looked for Kevmo, but learned he had been zotted in a fiery interaction with JimRob. No cold fusion involved.

84 posted on 08/26/2014 11:07:54 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: AZLiberty

well said


85 posted on 08/26/2014 11:10:28 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: FredZarguna
Fissioning atoms lighter than Iron consumes energy.

If this statement is correct, it debunks the oxygen to hydrogen mechanism proposed -- lock, stock, and barrel.

86 posted on 08/26/2014 11:13:32 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: AZLiberty

Heck......sorry I missed that...would have been a popcorn and beer moment.


87 posted on 08/26/2014 11:18:11 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat
The final blow ended up not being one of kevmo's amusing LENR Riddler-like rants, but it was the moron actually claiming to be a better conservative than JimRob.

Here

88 posted on 08/26/2014 1:23:02 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Now that’s kinda amusing. Nothing I have not seen before, but amusing nonetheless.

I always figured old Kevno would self destruct on a LENR argument...lol


89 posted on 08/26/2014 2:44:03 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: AZLiberty
One look at the nuclear binding energy curve will tell you it is impossible to get energy by splitting oxygen into hydrogen. You can only get energy if you split atoms that are at least heavier than iron.
90 posted on 08/26/2014 4:01:04 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: AZLiberty
If this statement is correct, it debunks the oxygen to hydrogen mechanism proposed -- lock, stock, and barrel.

There's no "if." This is a well established fact. The mathematical details of how much energy would be involved to convert one mole of water molecules (18 grams) to hydrogen can be found at post #50 of this thread.

91 posted on 08/26/2014 5:19:57 PM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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To: FredZarguna
The corrected statement is: Fissioning atoms lighter than Iron consumes energy. Fusioning atoms heavier than Iron consumes energy.

Yes... Iron!

Seemed to recall that all matter will eventually (in on the order of 10^14 years) decay to Iron.

Regards,

92 posted on 08/27/2014 12:04:51 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

lol, Bala is slang for crap


93 posted on 08/29/2014 3:13:55 PM PDT by dila813
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