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Horowitz: On Ferguson, Libertarians Playing With Fire
Breitbart.com ^ | August 18, 2014 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 08/18/2014 3:58:32 AM PDT by Biggirl

As Congress remains in a protracted recess for another three weeks and the political news recedes from the headlines, it didn’t take long for the nonpolitical event surrounding the unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, to become political. After all, everything in this day and age is ultimately politicized.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: danielhorowitz; ferguson; riots
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In other words, this will all come down to biting the libertarians back in a big way!
1 posted on 08/18/2014 3:58:33 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

They’re trying to combine several issues into one meaning that none of them will be dealt with.


2 posted on 08/18/2014 4:16:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Biggirl
Its a mistake to try to frame it as libertarian thing or a left vs right thing. Complaints are coming from everywhere.

I'm not trying to diminish the significance of the ghetto riots and the events that led up to that.

But the minor thing that caught my attention was the detention of the Huff Post reporter.

The reporter videotaped the LEO and LEOs don't liked to be videotape or photographed. The reporter refused to give the LEO his ID, and LEOs don't like to have their authority challenged.

So the LEO processed the reporter and as it always is, the processing becomes the punishment, in this case the punishment for videotaping and refusing to ID.

3 posted on 08/18/2014 4:40:08 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Are you sure about that?


4 posted on 08/18/2014 4:42:05 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

Sure about what?


5 posted on 08/18/2014 4:45:19 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

“The reporter videotaped the LEO and LEOs don’t liked to be videotape or photographed. The reporter refused to give the LEO his ID, and LEOs don’t like to have their authority challenged.”

While I do have my issues with those who are LEO’s who abuse their authority, got to also realize too and I am playing the “devil’s advocate” also, that MANY if not MOST LEO’s are doing so out of FEAR. Fear that they will not be going home that night, FEAR also of being the next LEO having a funeral service for.


6 posted on 08/18/2014 4:46:54 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Please see post number 6. Thank-you.


7 posted on 08/18/2014 4:47:23 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Could it be that the reporter’s arrest was because it was for the reporter’s safety?


8 posted on 08/18/2014 4:50:16 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
You can spend hours, days, weeks looking at YouTube videos of conflicts between citizens and LEOs over videos/photographs as well as refusal to ID. There is even a website, PINAC, that covers such events, usually with videos

I was surprised that the Ferguson LEO would go after a reporter who was far removed from the action.

9 posted on 08/18/2014 5:02:07 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Biggirl

Did you actually read the article?


10 posted on 08/18/2014 5:25:13 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

I scan the article.


11 posted on 08/18/2014 5:30:36 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: All

Again give US Senator Ted Cruz credit where credit is due:

“Indeed, Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) struck the perfect pitch, encapsulating everyone’s concerns: “Police officers risk their lives every day to keep us safe, and any time a young man loses his life in a confrontation with law enforcement, it is tragic... Civil liberties must be protected, but violence is not the answer. Once the unrest is brought to an end, we should examine carefully what happened to ensure that justice is served.”


12 posted on 08/18/2014 5:32:17 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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I'm sure you can find the video on the internet.

It happened at a McDonalds. Many of the reporters were frequenting McDonalds because of food, drink, bathrooms, wifi, wall plugs, and a place to take care of the details of their activity.

The LEOs went into McDs possibly trying to get McD to shut down. The reporter videotaped the LEO. The LEO left the building but returned to investigate the reporter where the conflict began.

Its not police abuse to cinch the hand restraints down tight or knock the reporters head against the door, or holdem at the station for an hour before releasing.

The reporter got off easy because he was a reporter. So his punishment was relatively mild.

For an regular citizen it would have been worse. He would have been booked, held overnite, required to bond out, forced to hire a lawyer, then the case would be dropped. The process becomes the punishment.

13 posted on 08/18/2014 5:34:03 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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So? No biggie.


14 posted on 08/18/2014 5:36:48 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Ben Ficklin

When it comes to riot control, SAFETY is FIRST.


15 posted on 08/18/2014 5:37:41 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
There was no riot in McDonalds.

It was an individual trying to protect his constitutional rights from an aggressive, ego-tripping, military-minded LEO

Its happening everyday all over the US.

16 posted on 08/18/2014 5:47:11 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To correct you, there are BAD COPS and they need to be WEEDED OUT, but also GOOD COPS.

Do you want anarchy to rule?

Sen. Ted Cruz presents a wonderful idea. I support him.


17 posted on 08/18/2014 5:51:36 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl; Ben Ficklin

>>So? No biggie.

Wear your chains lightly.


18 posted on 08/18/2014 5:55:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Biggirl
Texas is known as the state were they give women body cavity searches on the roadside.

I'm sure you can find the videos on YouTube.

19 posted on 08/18/2014 5:56:11 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Biggirl

If the LEO lets his / her “fear” of not going home cause him / her to become little tyrants and thugs... They are in the WRONG line of work.

Being a Police officer is a dangerous line of work. People who are OK with the inherent risk of being a police officer should be the only folks allowed to do the work. Its when you get the little sh-ts that value their own asses over the rights of the people who they work for that you get over militarized police forces and thugs with badges.

Honestly... I think we need a LOT less police and alot more armed citizens. Why make a cop shoot the guy YOU should have shot?

People should be scared to effin death of other people... Not the damn police.


20 posted on 08/18/2014 6:29:40 AM PDT by myself6
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