Judge Issues New Order to IRS: Your Excuse For "Lost" Emails is Invalid

Townhall.com ^ | August 15, 2014 | Katie Pavlich

[ForYourChildren]

Yes, I don’t think this how our founding fathers intended for the federal government to be - it is definitely tyranny.

[LibertyLA]

That happened to my company, and my Fathers company. The State Comp just outright locked my accounts and I had to find out from my bank that the State was involved. Turns out they received the sales tax's two days before this happened and five days before it was due. But hey, they were exercising their power. Literally.

I still have that letter of apology with the state header. Framed! Now I keep most of my funds out of the banks. Some in other states where local Comptrollers cannot touch it without a proper court order.

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I have heard so many tales of this - its why I keep all records and have insurance that pays for tax lawyers. I also don't keep funds in only one bank like you said. I have seen a friend become penniless and unable to hire a lawyer based on a 'mistake' by the IRS. By the time he was done proving his innocence his business was destroyed and he lost his home. A 'sorry' just doesn't cut it.

Not to mention someone else who had a freelancer (who only worked for her for 2 weeks) file as an employee for workman's comp which triggered an endless audit. She finally just closed her business as the only way to save her sanity. Now she is unemployed and relies on her husband.

Land of the Free? Home of the Brave?

No wonder we're screwed as a country now.

Also I am so sick of people who talk about 'tax cheats' when the IRS are the biggest crooks, terrorists and lying scum. How we don't openly revolt about this criminal organization is beyond me. I'd rather deal with the Mafia than these criminals.

And now they want to bring in a new illegal alien underclass and give them the 'blood money' extorted from working Americans. Seriously, what the hell is going on here??

Where is the special prosecutor? If this was an investigation by the IRS against a middle class American who had lost their records that American would be locked in a prison - life destroyed - for 20 years.

But we keep defending this hopelessly corrupt Federal Monster and their endless powers. The real war on terror should be waged against the IRS.

[Arrowhead1952]

[headstamp 2]

How about issuing some bench warrants for these obfuscators. Maybe that will get their attention.

[BigEdLB]

You mean the dog ate the hard drive isn’t good enough? Why not? It works for the Rats in Congress.

[Agamemnon]

I would never underestimate what a judge can do, especially if involves what transpires inside his courtroom.....

Thank you for expressing some common sense.

So many idiots on this thread are just so full of themselves and their snark tonight that they can't seem to muster the least little bit of appreciation for the fact that setting up a criminal syndicate is a process.

And so far this set up is going just the way we'd all want it to go, too.

Some mistake their depressive snark with saying something meaningful, when in reality they have contributed nothing substantive to the discussion.

The judge basically said to the IRS, "That's the best set of excuses you can give me for your sad-assed behavior -- and in MY courtroom, no less?? Come back and try again. You've got a week."

The judge is setting up these IRS lackeys. The IRS came to him with "the best" they had and now they have to try to come up with another story that's better than the last and somehow doesn't contradict the first story in anyway or else someone's gonna have perjury written all over their face.

And maybe that's the point. That's when it will get real interesting ... who among them will be persuadable to flip in exchange for reduced charges?

The guy with the popcorn picture has it right.

FReegards!

[William Tell]

Agamemnon said: "Thank you for expressing some common sense."

You're welcome.

Of course everything depends upon the judge truly wanting to make the executive branch accountable to the people. If not, then he can pretty easily tie things up, requiring an appeal of his every decision.

Many of us remember Watergate. Nixon was ordered by the courts to turn over secret audiotapes recorded in the Oval Office. Claims of "executive privilege" do not extend to evidence of felonious behavior.

If the judge in this case demands evidence, I think he will get it.

Sixty-five people were convicted of felonies during Watergate, many of whom were lawyers and who had no direct involvement in the original crime. Such a thing could happen here.

[pepsionice]

This is pretty much what got people upset with Nixon. The fact that no liberal will stand up and acknowledge it’s the same thing....pretty much takes all the steam out of their argument. Hard to say why we can let the IRS continue to exist at this point.

[longtermmemmory]

contempt has to have a purge provision.

This is about putting the IRS under oath.

Hard drives have serial numbers.

Lerner is trying to say she does not have any fingerprints because something she touched was wiped clean. (deny her finger tips have prints)

[GOPJ]

You mean the dog ate the hard drive isn’t good enough?

Good one.

Lois and the IRS don't put much effort into their lies because they know the MSM 'wants to believe'. They're all democrats - what's a few lies among friends, right?

If the IRS had said the hard drives grew legs and walked out of Lois's office - the New York Times would've fallen for it.

[fhayek]

Okay. Tomorrow is the deadline. What is going to happen?

[jazusamo]

I’d love to see Sullivan jail that smug little turkey Koskinen but we know that isn’t gonna happen.

I’ll be watching for an article and hopefully the judge does something to get their attention, I doubt they’ll turn over anything he’s asked for.

[fhayek]

I know you are right. They are protected by the fact that the boy-moron will be able to pardon any transgressions. They need to get to the ROOT of the problem...