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To: rdcbn
Overall, SWAT Teams are generally very professional and have very good records in dealing with dangerous situations while protecting the by standing public

Oh....really????

http://www.cato.org/raidmap

I guess that's why there's basically this 'app' to track their 'good records'...

Head...meet sand.

158 posted on 08/13/2014 2:23:46 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead
Overall, SWAT Teams are generally very professional and have very good records in dealing with dangerous situations while protecting the by standing public

Oh....really????

http://www.cato.org/raidmap

I guess that's why there's basically this ‘app’ to track their ‘good records’...

Head...meet sand.


Yes, really.

I am aware of the Cato Report.

Cato is pushing the idea that SWAT operations are overused and constitute excessive force for many of the SWAT team operations, especially for “non violent drug offenders” ( CATO is a Libertarian think tank and is often opposed to hard core drug enforcement).

As part of the stats they include SWAT mistaken raids on innocent people, mistaken identity or wrong addresses.

They also break them down by year. Filtering for Mistaken Raids of all types by individual year is very instructional.

In the years 2000-2010 there seemed to about 10-220 of these cases per year nation wide in the entire country out of a total of 40,000 total SWAT raids each year. Not a huge amount relative to total number, but significant if it's your house they raided.

For comparison purposes, there are on average 55 people nation wide who are killed by being struck by lightning.

About 2010, there was a growing awareness that SWAT teams were making too many mistaken raids.

Based on this awareness, SWAT teams became more careful in their procedures to avoid mistaken raids on both innocent people or mistaken addresses.

If you look at the stats, the number of recorded bad SWAT raids was zero in 2012 and all of two so far in 2014.

These are probably under counted, but there does seem to be noticeable trend for SWAT teams to tighten up their procedures and clean up their act to eliminate mistaken raids on innocent people, mistaken identity or wrong addresses.

Thanks for opinion that I have my head in the sand. It's a big and positive step up from the place where lots of other people accuse my head of being lodged most of the time :-)

183 posted on 08/13/2014 3:11:36 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: bamahead
OOPs, my bad

That should be 10-22 bad SWAT raids per year nation wide, not 220.


Overall, SWAT Teams are generally very professional and have very good records in dealing with dangerous situations while protecting the by standing public
Oh....really????

http://www.cato.org/raidmap

I guess that's why there's basically this ‘app’ to track their ‘good records’...

Head...meet sand.

Yes, really.

I am aware of the Cato Report.

Cato is pushing the idea that SWAT operations are overused and constitute excessive force for many of the SWAT team operations, especially for “non violent drug offenders” ( CATO is a Libertarian think tank and is often opposed to hard core drug enforcement).

As part of the stats they include SWAT mistaken raids on innocent people, mistaken identity or wrong addresses.

They also break them down by year. Filtering for Mistaken Raids of all types by individual year is very instructional.

In the years 2000-2010 there seemed to about 10-22 of these cases per year nation wide in the entire country out of a total of 40,000 total SWAT raids each year. Not a huge amount relative to total number, but significant if it's your house they raided.

For comparison purposes, there are on average 55 people nation wide who are killed by being struck by lightning.

About 2010, there was a growing awareness that SWAT teams were making too many mistaken raids.

Based on this awareness, SWAT teams became more careful in their procedures to avoid mistaken raids on both innocent people or mistaken addresses.

If you look at the stats, the number of recorded bad SWAT raids was zero in 2012 and all of two so far in 2014.

These are probably under counted, but there does seem to be noticeable trend for SWAT teams to tighten up their procedures and clean up their act to eliminate mistaken raids on innocent people, mistaken identity or wrong addresses.

Thanks for opinion that I have my head in the sand. It's a big and positive step up from the place where lots of other people accuse my head of being lodged most of the time :-)

200 posted on 08/13/2014 3:57:18 PM PDT by rdcbn
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