[Paul R.]

Well — it (changing a nation’s mindset) can sometimes be done, and has been. Post WW2 Japan, for example. But to do it you have to beat the population to a pulp, and probably have to demonstrate willingness to use even stronger measures (nukes, in the case of Japan.)

Modern Western sensibilities make this unacceptable - at least for now. When we lose a city, or generally suffer significantly, that may change.

[caww]

Huge difference between Japan and ME...'ISLAM'...which directs 'everything' in their life. And any not Islamic are infidels...and this without provocation...it's their nature. So no...until they can denounce the Koran and Islam as it stands...there can be no change in their mindset.. when push comes to shove we always see it rise above all else for them no matter how people otherwise want to see them as.