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New Study Sees Atlantic Warming Behind a Host of Recent Climate Shifts
New York Times ^ | August 3, 2014 | By ANDREW C. REVKIN

Posted on 08/03/2014 12:48:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Using climate models and observations, a fascinating study in this week’s issue of Nature Climate Change points to a marked recent warming of the Atlantic Ocean as a powerful shaper of a host of notable changes in climate and ocean patterns in the last couple of decades — including Pacific wind, sea level and ocean patterns, the decade-plus hiatus in global warming and even California’s deepening drought

Here’s the University of New South Wales news release:

Atlantic warming turbocharges Pacific trade winds.

Record breaking trade winds may have led to hiatus in global surface average temperatures.

New research has found rapid warming of the Atlantic Ocean, likely caused by global warming, has turbocharged Pacific Equatorial trade winds. Currently the winds are at a level never before seen on observed records, which extend back to the 1860s.

The increase in these winds has caused eastern tropical Pacific cooling, amplified the Californian drought, accelerated sea level rise three times faster than the global average in the Western Pacific and has slowed the rise of global average surface temperatures since 2001.

(Excerpt) Read more at dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: climategate; hoax; marxism; socialism
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To: abclily

Summer is here and the Atlanitic is warning?

Oh the Huge Manatee!!!!


21 posted on 08/03/2014 2:02:00 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Layman’s translation of the article: We still don’t have a f*cking clue.


22 posted on 08/03/2014 2:26:16 PM PDT by technically right
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

U.S. Monthly Drought Outlook (map)
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/expert_assessment/mdo_summary.html


23 posted on 08/03/2014 2:29:25 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Doomnation is upon us!


24 posted on 08/03/2014 2:31:17 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I just made up a new word!


25 posted on 08/03/2014 2:31:56 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I want credit.


26 posted on 08/03/2014 2:32:57 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Climate change is very real. For example, the average climate of the northern hemisphere is so cold as to cause the ground to be buried under a thousand feet of ice. The cycle of glacier on/glacier off takes place every several hundred thousand years and can be clearly seen in many ways. Even as the science is settled that glaciation has taken place, the causes are still undergoing vigorous debate.

With respect to the idea that humans are causing harmful changes to the climate at this very moment, I am waiting for some peer-reviewed papers that proposes what the optimum climate is for our biosphere. The first question that would naturally flow would be where is our current climate and trend in relation to this finding.

That nobody seems interested in this vital comparison indicates that climate is primarily being studied for other purposes. Since all the urgent demands that flow from today’s climate science coincidentally converge on policy solutions that involve statism, bigger government, higher taxes, less personal liberty, the bigger picture tells me all that I need to know about “climate science”.


27 posted on 08/03/2014 3:24:03 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
New research has found rapid warming of the Atlantic Ocean, likely caused by global warming ....

>Likely caused: You must buy this supposition as established fact for the rest of the events in the article to have anything to do with global warming. The BIG lie.

28 posted on 08/03/2014 4:18:40 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"New Study Sees Atlantic Warming Behind a Host of Recent reports of small children pooping in their diapers."

Only a massive redistribution of wealth can save us.

29 posted on 08/03/2014 5:44:41 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The AMO is as high as it has even been.


30 posted on 08/03/2014 5:51:34 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Actual question... since all the seas are connected, how does the sea level rise in one part of the ocean and not in another?


31 posted on 08/03/2014 5:55:04 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

GW is a lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyUDGfCNC-k


32 posted on 08/03/2014 6:05:52 PM PDT by Vision (Living in beauty)
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To: Desron13

Well played!


33 posted on 08/03/2014 6:06:01 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the Atlantic is warming, shouldn’t we be seeing more tropical storms than usual?


34 posted on 08/03/2014 7:28:28 PM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: MediaMole

It must be those “turbocharged Pacific trade winds” piling up the water on that side of the Pacific.


35 posted on 08/03/2014 8:37:53 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: familyop

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-97.93,35.39,400


36 posted on 08/03/2014 9:24:17 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And the Day After Tomorrow book and movie were based on scientific claims that global warming would cool the Atlantic and that would cause cooling over the north eastern US. These so called scientists are all over the place. The global warming was supposed to melt Greenland Ice which would stop the Gulf Stream and cool the North Atlantic.

Now they are claiming that global warming has heated the Atlantic and that has cooled the Pacific via faster equatorial trade winds.

Hey bozo's, what if the stronger trade winds were actually a result of global cooling ? With stronger trade winds we get weaker and less El Nino's. And that has been the case the past 10 years. The stronger trade winds are now going to also cool the Atlantic and shift the AMO.

37 posted on 08/03/2014 9:48:52 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

How does one ocean get “warming”?


38 posted on 08/03/2014 9:49:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
How does one ocean get “warming”?

There are cycles in nature that work at different wavelengths that can vary quite a bit and they can be out of phase with each other occasionally. The PDO and AMO are decadal and their oscillations work over periods of decades or years. El Nino and La Nina work over periods of months or weeks. The PDO has been in cold phase for awhile, while the AMO has been in warm phase. Bastardi is predicting a shift to cool phase for the AMO soon. And obviously one of the ways to cool surface water is for a faster wind to flow over the water.

Other then that, they estimate their are a million undersea volcanic eruption points. Who knows what periods volcanic activity cycles can operate on and if they can be slightly out of phase globally. But in a nut shell, apes are clueless. Always have been, always will be.

39 posted on 08/03/2014 10:06:56 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Gumdrop
If the Atlantic is warming, shouldn’t we be seeing more tropical storms than usual?

Alert ! This person just exercised Free Thought. Send this individual to a reeducation camp immediately. This person needs to attend 10 hours of Al Gore Global Warming seminars each day. Followed by a 10 minute, releasing your shockra session. After two months of this reeducation, you will never ever again raise such intelligent questions in public.

Yes. You are correct. A warmer Atlantic should have produced stronger hurricanes and more US mainland hits with cat 4's and 5's. But something changed right after Katrina. The Earth has been cooling since then. The Atlantic will turn into cooling mode real soon now.

40 posted on 08/03/2014 10:17:07 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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